`Pure

nfs west hands down go tarvaris

Lol at you getting at epidemic, What has TLP accomplished since they where open, when were they ever really dominate. They were never #1 in anything but clan wars preps. Lol at ranking them over FI, even tho FI was dominate at something and accomplished more **** than tlp. And L2 read the topic its about F2P. Epidemics short rein of massing made more of an impact / accomplished more than TLP has since you guys been open. Be real with yourself. When was TLP really dominant? Wow man, your 2011 is showing. TLP was never dominate nor #1 in p2p or f2p, your bias posts are showing. & Your post above doesn't mean anything you just named era's of the pure community doesn't mean anything. But, that's wrong. And yea I'm biased hurr durr.

Lol at you getting at epidemic, What has TLP accomplished since they where open, when were they ever really dominate. They were never #1 in anything but clan wars preps. Lol at ranking them over FI, even tho FI was dominate at something and accomplished more **** than tlp. And L2 read the topic its about F2P. Epidemics short rein of massing made more of an impact / accomplished more than TLP has since you guys been open. Be real with yourself. When was TLP really dominant? Wow man, your 2011 is showing. Well when were they dominant then? TLP have never been a top f2p clan and the closest they've come to getting ahead of FOE in p2p was early last year when they got thrashed 3-0 in a p2p fullout against FOE, with FOE having 75+ ending all 3 rounds and TLP being so embarassed they had to blame "jail lag" for the loss. Pre bh/clan wars/pvp/new wild

Lol at you getting at epidemic, What has TLP accomplished since they where open, when were they ever really dominate. They were never #1 in anything but clan wars preps. Lol at ranking them over FI, even tho FI was dominate at something and accomplished more **** than tlp. And L2 read the topic its about F2P. Epidemics short rein of massing made more of an impact / accomplished more than TLP has since you guys been open. Be real with yourself. When was TLP really dominant? Wow man, your 2011 is showing.

pound the rock. use less insulin.

WALLI STIRRING THE POT

No idea. You guys wouldn't even use it. Since nobody ever...

So did CP that "chain69" era was when CP was most dominating in f2p for 2 months we pulled 100+ There were more dominant times that actually consisted of 100+ members as opposed to randoms.

Considering both F2P and P2P (all time. I'm not even considering the joke that is/was the chain69 era for cp.) Malice - undisputed ownage clan of all time --Power Gap-- MM - always been near the top. most consistent clan of all time. have always been able to compete/excel in both servers FOE - right behind MM. i'd say their dominance in p2p is greater than mm's dominance in f2p, but i feel like all their titans and what not is the reason for that now. inb4 lol mm are 8485309-0 against them in f2p. at least they have the balls to war you in your server FI/EOP - have had extended reigns at #1, have been at least competitive in both servers at some point or recently TLP/CP/E - all are/were great in their respective servers at some point, but could never be a consistent competing/dominant force in the other

I mean, most of us do. Omni usually just makes some post about it after he does it.

lost

ok so your saying foe, eop, tlp, cp all allowed 30 def to keep them from closing? you're delusional I'm not trying to flame or flame bait or anything because this topics actually pretty good, but putting EOP/FOE in the same "group" as CP isn't correct. EOP and FOE have proven that they can be consistently top clans without addy, FOE wear robes on trips and have shown that when they can be bothered they can smash #1 any time of the year. EOP have stopped wearing addy and even though they still got quite alot of mith, have proved that they can be consistently #1 without the use of 30 def armours and without actually relying on their defence to see them through the day. Now, if CP, IR, Zenith, Venom et cetera stopped wearing addy there would be a dramatic decrease in clan strength in the wildy, which simply hasn't happened to EOP/FOE. I don't think its a coincidence that the top 3 clans are all clans that don't use addy on PK trips (FOE/MM/EOP), the leaders are obviously good at what they do or their clans wouldn't be the 3 best in the community and they have realised addy isn't all its cracked up to be. Personally I don't care if the clans my clan compete with wear addy/mith etc, we still have fun and even though we're all in robes/dhide we've proven we can step up and negate the addy/levels with a combination of organisation and numbers, which makes things very fun. Outside of all the trolling etc that my clan partakes in in terms of clans who have different defence requirements, I truly like that not all clans are the same and some accept mith, some accept addy, and believe that the respective leaders can run their clan however they wish Sorry to Omni for hijacking the topic and sorry to anyone reading, the argument i presented above isn't very articulate and probably makes little sense but IM TOO TIRED AND ITS MY BIRTHDAY. Any clans mentioned, don't take it personally pls It really isn't intended that way in this particular instance Now, to stay on topic Above I explained clans can run themselves however they like but for the sake of discussion, I think 35 defence in particular is stupid, but clans will do whatever they can to get the edge on their opponents and quite rightly too. The general consensus is that Mith is "OK" when calling someone a pure, despite the obvious hardliners who don't call anything above 5/10 defence pure. However, with the influx of addy and the changing of the times I think calling this community a "Pure" community isn't correct, the pure clans that exist today are pretty limited (NME with the 10 def cap, MM, TH only accept 20 def I believe) and the other clans that accept addy and wear addy i wouldn't call pure clans, more like turmoil clans obviously inspired by the pure clans in the past. TLDR; 35 defence isn't accepted by "pure clans" and they arn't "pures", its simply evolution of a community thats been around for 7 years happy birthday!!!!!!!

I know you guys don't care, but the pros you listed are completely defensive lol. The fact that you guys are getting defense just for the defensive bonuses is ridiculous.

I watched some kid die at rock lobs once and my blessed soul actually ignored it. I was laughing so much since I didn't, as it was about about 40m wealth. All respect to pelony for doing this.

You can get B gloves at 38 def so I wouldn't be surprised if clans started accepting it just for that reason lol. You can get b gloves at 34 def.

Don't make PIDing worse than it already is.

Don't really care. I still have glorious Kentucky college basketball.

why don't you talk to her instead of telling a runescape forum community about it

Never did it. Don't care.

Neither do I, but neither of us are lawyers so we aren't expected to.

looks nice

Go for 80/85 to start.

good stuff guys. just got back from a friends house. played some uc3 and raped.

You guys disgust me.