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I like it atm, the big clans fight the big clans, the medium clans fight the medium clans and the little clans fight the little clans. It's rare you will see MM crashing Z for example. Each little sector has it's own drama... It's quite enjoyable to watch. The pure world seems to be flourishing at the moment.

P2P MM FOE TLP EOP FI IR CPR CH C

Donno who to say won this, both teams looked like they were up at certain point form the pictures, would have been nice to see a vid, but both seem like they had a good time :P

More or less this.

GJ FOE, Shows that pures can stand up to mains... Just not ROT.

Pretty sure it wen't this way. Looks about right from watching the video's. Oh and @OBR, I have watched the video, you clearly have not, on Joe's you can see MM exit out south of pond and run up to sperm hill, you might want to check that out. FACT: MM were at sperm hill with a considerable amount of opts wanting to carry the fight one FACT: FOE were in safe zone and hopped in safe zone FACT: FOE knew MM were at sperm hill wanting to carry the fight on FACT: There were no MM left at pond because they regrouped at Sperm hill, on Joe's video you see them run south to sperm hill. FOE have used this tactic countless times and MM continued the fight.

Obviously you didn't if I'm persistent on asking you. Seeing as you're as hard headed as you were in Foe, just answer this: Was MM on Sperm hill when the fight that took place at the pond east of graveyard which is outlined in BOTH videos produced by Foe members? If so, what were you doing there? Gaining EP? Cmon Jacky boy im ready. Obviously you forced them onto sperm hill, but the fight was at corp at first. If MM want to take the fight to sperm hill why cant they? FOE moves the fight all over the place most weekends. Nothing wrong with it. What is wrong is saying "well fight was at pond, after it was at corp then gap, then graters, then ruins... but it cant go to sperm hill so we won" ^^ this. Jack.... What clan are you in again? shhhhhh, it annoys me when people try to claim wins when they didnt win.

Obviously you didn't if I'm persistent on asking you. Seeing as you're as hard headed as you were in Foe, just answer this: Was MM on Sperm hill when the fight that took place at the pond east of graveyard which is outlined in BOTH videos produced by Foe members? If so, what were you doing there? Gaining EP? Cmon Jacky boy im ready. Obviously you forced them onto sperm hill, but the fight was at corp at first. If MM want to take the fight to sperm hill why cant they? FOE moves the fight all over the place most weekends. Nothing wrong with it. What is wrong is saying "well fight was at pond, after it was at corp then gap, then graters, then ruins... but it cant go to sperm hill so we won" Just face it, you didnt want to carry the fight on, so you stopped. You cant claim a win on this one, because you gave up and chose to regroup/rebank over carrying on the fight. ^^ this.

ur an idiot, u freaking hit mm yesterday ofc ur biased against them. the vid is the first fight, it ended then foe came and killed what was left ofc 40+ fully geared foe memebrs are going to clear 30 mm who inv has nothing but loot. It was a sad thing for foe to do but mm dragge the fight on against all odds and won in the end at clan wars when foe submitted Look at the mini map, alot of people/things are in the same location, so the pictures were taken within a few seconds of each other.

Well then the clan that got pushed would just re-mass and re-rush before the other clan has time to collect loot/log. The problem is it's far too easy to return, back in the day if you died you had to run all the way to draynor then gdz telly, or take a bronze axe out and run back to lummby. Now you respawn at a bank and there are tellys to clan wars, wilderness volcano, moss giants, all the anchant tellys and fog. When you die you can get back to anywhere in under 2 minutes with ease (fresh supply s as well)

A picture of MM outside just to prove they were there. Both pictures taken more or less at the same time (look at the mini map) I conclude this was a victory for MM, FOE's argument of "we didnt want to wait" is invalid, there argument of "the fight was at the pond" is hypercritical and there argument of "we didnt know where they were" has been proved wrong.

Shame you had to crash when CPR and WAR were low on prayer and resources, but the fight of CPR+WAR(both low on resources) vs C looked quite interesting/fun for both sides, and you did well against the numbers (~40 low on resources) vs 30. Rest of your trip looked legit though, GJ.

That is where you're wrong. Foe was just west of Fog with a return group running in when MM booked it inside Fog. In this case, Foe was at east graveyard or pond with MM CLEARED. By your standards last week and the standards of MM, no clan remaining on the battlefield is a win. The battlefield was the pond and MM was totally CLEARED. Why don't you just get like warlord or something in MM. You defend them more than your own clan at times. If mods see that last bit as a bait edit it out, not my whole post. No need to edit it, Im just going to punch holes in your logic. Firstly as far as Im aware no pictures of this magical "return group to the west" have surfaced. Secondly, I doubt MM was aware of the existence of this "return group to the west" or I'm sure the fight would have continued. Where as FOE was well aware of the group of MM at sperm hill on todays pk trip. As for the last bit, it's scary isnt it, I really dont know why I defend them so much. I guess it's just because I dont like it when people try to steal wins. As for the "you defend them more than your own clan" CPR doesn't get into disputes like this, as the MPC world is far more laid back, they know how to take a loss. As for people saying "focus on your own clan" this is what happens... I look at the pictures and video's, post what I conclude happened, then often a kid from the other clan is like "OMGI!"£"! YOUR SO WONRGGENI!!!! HERE IS WHY!!!!!" then they post some bs evidence and I just have to shoot them down.

Sorry to hear about George, from what people have told me he was a really nice guy. Glad to see you had a good trip on your day of remembrance.

once again, we did the exact thing MM did yesterday and last Sunday, but you refuse to admit it. *sigh* I really didn't want to carry this on, but your forcing me to. Firstly, hiding MM's spam so it looks good on your video is a bad thing to do. Quote from Wikipedia "propaganda, in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience." Does hiding MM's spam so people cant see it present information in a way that influence the audience... yes... yes it does. secondly MM didn't try to say they won that fight at chaos alter [i guess thats what your talking about] "we decided to crash and make them really mad. We cleared all their people, and went to clanwars when we saw big groups of returners coming." They said you returned and that's why they ran. Your last statement is also hypercritical, and admits defeat. Your saying you ran away and tried to take a win because you were annoyed that MM ran away and you interpreted that they tried to take a win yesterday. So your saying that FOE made this topic to try to claim a false victory as a form of revenge. EDIT: Oooooh your talking about MM's fight at FOG last week, well when you look on MM's pics foe was 100% clean, this is different because MM were still there and ready to fight today (they were spread on sperm hill not regrouping at edge)

off my turf, an MM member, said sperm in-game maybe he put it to game so he can find his loots? roflmao it's funny how hard you will try to make FOE look better than MM. holy ****, go worry about CPR's lovely topic 1. My mistake, thought it said it in your CC when I was writing this (didnt dubble check) rest of it is right though 2. The bit about "so he can find his loots?" dosnt make any sense considering the whole point of this argument is that mm and foe didnt fight at sperm hill. 3. Make foe look better? I just dont like it when clans lie on topics thats all, FOE lost because you logged out and didn't want to carry the fight on, I've provided enough evidence to prove that MM were at sperm hill and FOE were aware of this. 4. CPR doesn't need any worrying, there topic is legit. There was a little misunderstanding with carnage but we in CPR have the humility to change our topics when we realise we made a mistake to ensure there accuracy. Anyway, I think I have proved that MM won that overall. No point carrying this on any longer as your reply s are becoming ridiculous, and your not adding anything new to the conversation.

5:29 on You see MM run to sperm hill and a foe member say "sperm" in the CC, you knew they were there yet you ended anyway. MM won purely because you logged out, I will say this tho, MM won the 1st part of the fight, FOE won the 2nd, MM won the 3rd because you gave up. I do think your video guy is quite good though, just after 5:29 he runs out moves his chat box up and puts it on game only, I think some one told him MM were spamming "bwuk bwuk bwuk" so he tried to hide it in the video, he does it quite well. I wouldn't have guessed otherwise if I hadn't seen the pictures my self.

and why sperm hill? you were there, tell us. fight was west of clw; east of graveyard MM chose to sit at sperm hill and regroup, but we wasn't going to w8 have a nice day. :) Well from reading the topic it would appear that the fight was at corp at first, then MM pushed to lava gap, then FOE pushed down to CLW thats when MM went to spread on sperm hill probably to stop the fight from going to BHB then to FOG like the past 3 weeks. You say you were not going to wait... but MM were already there??? the fight was east of graveyard by pond, we cleared them there and mm tried to regroup on sperm. why should we wait for them to regroup and drag on the fight? You didnt have to wait, they were already there... Thats what Im getting at. If they were not there and were regrouping as you ran in then fair doo's, but there is a picture on the FOE topic that clearly shows MM at sperm hill. Your argument cant be "oh fight was at pond" because FOE have regrouped in other locations and dragged the fight there countless times. Saying that is incredibly hypercritical.

and why sperm hill? you were there, tell us. fight was west of clw; east of graveyard MM chose to sit at sperm hill and regroup, but we wasn't going to w8 have a nice day. :) Well from reading the topic it would appear that the fight was at corp at first, then MM pushed to lava gap, then FOE pushed down to CLW thats when MM went to spread on sperm hill probably to stop the fight from going to BHB then to FOG like the past 3 weeks. You say you were not going to wait... but MM were already there???

^^ at sperm hill, just off the mini map, please refer to my post above yours :) have a nice day.

Runescape drama is the best drama, can you picture how boring this game would be without it!?

MM had plenty outside clan wars, look at the pic. They were at sperm hill. This picture shows MM running into clan wars from sperm hill, just after FOE logged out (look in the clan chat) Conclusive evidence...

I'd say MM won if you stopped fighting, from what I heard after you ran into clan wars they went and spread on sperm hill spamming "bwuk bwuk bwuk" then you hopped worlds. Thats them by sperm hill. Thats after they came off sperm hill, some FOE members still hadn't logged out. Look at Clan Chat, that proves it was taken just after FOE logged. You can even see some MM members running in from sperm hill still.

^^ loots good luck, everyone dies and gives loot... congratulations on your good luck, commiseration on the loss. Looks like CPR had a good trip today

Would be nice to do multiple quotes as well.... (quoting a quote to get my point across) Fixed test Edit: holy crap it's about time lOL THIS IS AMAZING! This is a beautiful thing!