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Is that what it takes nowadays in DP's mind, for a clan to get ahead of them they have to be consistent for 2 months? First it was 2 weeks, now 3 weeks, now 2 months...im sure we will stay consistent anyways, even if we stay consistent and beat you for a month, I think thats enough to take #4....2 months is crossing the line but only time will tell, things change quickly, for all you know your clan might not even be pulling 60+ 2 months from now, same goes with FOE, MM, etc....nobody can predict the future. To Rofl: I didn't criticize people for making lists, or discussing lists, when I said a while ago "wow you guys are still arguing over this ********"....that was because people were still flaming over run-ins that happened weeks before-hand, which in my opinion is ridiculous, but thats just my opinion, everybodys is different. So this isn't spam i'll post a P2P list: 01.) FOE 02.) MM 03.) TLP 04.) FI 05.) C 06.) DP 07.) E 08.) IR 09.) EOP 10.) DV #'s 8-10 could be switched around depending on each clans pull.

Oh my so early to be doing predictions but since the trend has been started I might aswell hop on board and post one aswell. 01.) MM - I think their sign-ups might be enough to take a win maybe, only 1 way to find out. 02.) E - I think you guys could beat MM again unless they pull huge. 03.) FOE - Will take alot to get beaten by a clan below you guys. 04.) EOP - Pulled 67 last week, 85 this week, looking forward to proving that we are back and can pull 80+ people once again. 05.) DP - Will pull good but not enough to beat the above imo. Should be close. 06.) FI - Will pull decent and beat the below, I believe you guys could beat DP aswell. 07.) CP - Will pull decent, lets see how good they can do with their 2 main callers present, see how much of a difference 2 people can make.... 08.) TLP - Will pull 50ish but they never seem to do much, show everybody what you got. 09.) IR - Im guessing will pull 30-40 people, will probably fight Malice and win. 10.) Malice - Slumping? Or off days, one of the two, make a comeback please. 11.) DV - Forgot to rank you in my last 2-3 lists, where have you gone?

Lets not make this an arguement, but instead talk like normal human beings. Because we pulled 20 people 1 month ago, but pulled 80 now, doesn't mean we massed, maybe if our memberlist went from 20 to 80 it would be massing, but really our ml only went up by about 20 people. We have probably got a solid 15 people from VO since they closed, which is still only a small majority of them, yes those extra 15 people help alot, but even if VO didn't join us, our pull as EOP still would have been 70, which is double Malice's pull, and we only have 15 people more than you on our ml. Because a clan goes from pulling low, to pulling high, doesn't mean we mass recruited, we made alot of changes in EOP, alot of motivational posts, and alot of dedication from our members, with co-operation from your members, a little morale boost, and alot of confidence, any clan can come out of a slump. EOP has been in many slumps, perhaps one of those times we did some mass recruiting, it worked in the short-term run, but not in the long-term run, thats why this time we were more smart about how we are going to become a better clan, we learned from our past mistakes. To sum this post up, there is a difference in mass recruiting, and just having alot of applicants wanting to join your clan. Mass recruiting is when you do anything possible to get more members on your memberlist, we are not doing that, people who are apping for EOP now are doing it out of their own will, and are still being put through the application process like anyone else would have to do. Saying we massed because we pulled 86/105 (including FA's) is rather incorrect.....Thats like saying Epidemic are massers because they pull 100 now and pulled 70 last month, im sure they didn't mass recruit, they had members app out of their own personal will. Thanks for giving me something to talk about though, im super bored and hungover, can't even go outside cause im snowed in lol. :down:

To 0wnage: We made our apology post to Epidemic before they were #1, it might look like we are kissing their ass but really the reason behind it is there is no point carrying on a grudge forever in an online game, it will not get you anywhere, nor will it help you, in fact now that both clans are on "talking" terms again it's actually quite better in a way, rather than just being flamed because of your clans tag. To Rofl: We never lost 20 people after our first fight, we fought V0P, had 75-80 left still, then we were walking around for a nice bit trying to locate a clan to fight (a clan that wasn't already in a fight that is) until we finally got a scout on DP....within that time our 75 people that were left dropped to about 65-70 because some people had to go...we don't force our members to play rs, although it's something we have to work on is keeping high numbers all throughout the trip. I think we did decent, pking for 2 hours and still having 50-60 people in cc.... could be better could be worst, but at the end of the day it was all for fun and games so thats all that matters. :happy:

Overall F2P: 01.) E - Safe to say now with those numbers and pulls, you will stay here. Grats babes. 02.) MM - Im still waiting to see a huge pull from you guys and get revenge. 03.) FOE - Still a powerhouse, lacks numbers to beat the above, med clans might catch up soon. 04.) DP/EOP - DP has been more consistent since our slump. 05.) EOP/DP - EOP is definately making a strong comeback, getting used to pking and being organized with big numbers again. 06.) FI - Coming back slowly, gj guys keep it up. 07.) CP - Consistency is good, had an off weekend, but are still here for sure. 08.) TLP - Can pull good when they want to, but rarely do any damage. 09.) Malice - Sexy clan, had somewhat of a weak pull but all clans have their good and bad days. 10.) IR - Dropped a little recently, but still a force when they want to be, never stop trying guys.

Iwis not sure why your calling us massers, it was only a fight no need to get upset about it, you should be proud, Malice put up just as good of a fight with their 35 people as what most clans gave us with 50 people. We didn't mass at all, our ml is only 95, and a few weeks ago it was 75, we only gained 20 members since and alot of them were ex-VO. Massers is a clan that mass recruits and accepts any app, we're pretty strict when it comes to our app process and who actually gets accepted/declined. Thanks for the fight though, was fun. Gj today guys, we got a major confidence boost lately, went from pulling 30, to 40, to 60, to 85, lets hope we can pull 80-90 next weekend aswell. Good fight to all clans we fought, was an extremely fun trip, and I look forward to next weekend, Sorry for running into FI vs CP we didn't know you guys were in the middle of a fight. My apologies. There was a few clans we scouted today that were already in fights so we decided to leave them be rather than crashing just for some action. Would have been interesting to run into FOE or something, normally they find us when we least expect it, I don't even think we seen FOE or MM at all today which is extremely weird lol.

01.) E - Grats on your pull. 02.) MM - Gj guys better luck next weekend. 03.) Heard a few good things, gj. 04.) EOP - Pulled 87 and would have merked any med clan at the beginning-med of our trip, started getting fights towards the end but still managed to go 6-1. Was fighting DP, we were winning by the looks of it then CP interupted and we cleared CP and made DP run to mossies. Not sure why you guys ran, should have just stopped to clear cp or keep focusing on the fight. 05.) DP - Definately deserves this spot at the least, beat us once today and did a good job, not making excuses but we fought 3 clans before we fought you w/o banking, those that were left were definately someone low on food/prayer with the exception of a few, we ignored going to bank though and fought anyways, nobody really returned and alot of people had to go so we ended trip. Props for the fight. 06.) FI - Grats guys heard you beat CP, sorry for interupting the last part of your fight. 07.) CP - Gj guys looking forward to seeing you guys next weekend, keep it up. 08.) Malice - Gf today guys 09.) TLP - Not sure what you did today 10.) IR *Note, I believe EOP did better than DP today number-wise and win-wise, we won mroe fights which is why i put us above you, but really you guys would pretty much be tied with us seeing as you beat us once before we ended our trip. Gj today guys you seem to be improving. Thanks alot for both fights, was respectable fights, lets keep this flame free.

I agree some people are giving us too much credit, EOP hasn't earned #5 yet, hopefully we can stay consistent over the next few weeks and slowly work our way up.

Lol, seriously you guys gotta stop closing and re-opening, it's getting old...don't take this as a flame-bait but most people will probably find this funny. Will be interesting to see what happens to DP.

I dunno why CP and DP are still arguing on this topic about a run-in that happened 4 days ago, CP shouldn't have even claimed a win because the fight was crashed, which is ironic cause they claimed a win vs EOP aswell which wasn't even a win due to being crashed....therefore CP have claimed 2 wins this weekend that really wasn't even legit, trust me DP your on the same boat as us in this situation, just leave it be, let them have their fake win, and prove to them Saturday that you guys are the better clan, simple as that. F2P list: 01.) MM - Consistency over all others. 02.) E - Should be interesting to see what happens this weekend. 03.) FOE - Still expecting a comeback. 04.) DP - Has been consistent with pulls, good numbers, lacks organization sometimes. 05.) CP - Consistent pull around 50 people, looking forward to this weekend. 06.) EOP - Out of our slump, time to show consistency, we still have to prove ourselves, this weekend perhaps? 07.) FI - Slowly coming back, good job boys. 08.) TLP - Hopefully we get a real fight this weekend, not a 50vs10 last weekend which you claim to have won. 09.) Malice - Had an off weekend last week, this week should be better. 10.) IR - Should not talk the talk until you can walk the walk, hopefully you guys pull good this weekend. ~Old

Gonna do a different list for a change, on who I think would win in P2P full-outs. 01.) MM 02.) FOE 03.) TLP 04.) E/FI - Assuming they would outnumber the below by a nice bit. 05.) FI/E - If they could pull similar opts to E they would win. 06.) C 07.) DP - Numbers in P2P makes you win 08.) EOP - Gaining ground in P2P, slowly adjusting. Needs more P2P members to compete. 09.) IR 10.) CP

R.I.P Veneratio, you guys are great ya'll are super chill which I like, not to mention out of every clan you guys put up the best fights most the time in mini's against us....now we get to mini together on the same side, for those that decided to join us. Love ya'll. >.>

We just came here to state the true facts, and prove a point, which i believe has been proven with enough evidence. No more EOP reply on this topic from here on.

Predictions for Saturday: 01.) MM - I have a feeling they will want revenge and will pull close to 100. 02.) E - Will lose to MM but beat the below. 03.) FOE - Will pull enough to beat the below but not enough to beat the above. 04.) EOP - Pulled 60 w/o sign-ups last week, hopefully we can prove consistency and pull 60-70 again this weekend. 05.) FI - Just a feeling they will do alright. 06.) DP - Will probably pull good, will be interesting to see who they decide to fight. 07.) TLP - Killed 10 EOP last week and claim they won, but I think they will beat the below if they can pull ~50 again. 08.) CP - Will pull 50ish again, has the potential to do well but this is just a prediction. Would be interesting to see them rematch vs DP with similar numbers. 09.) IR - Imo will pull 40ish and do alright with the opts they have, but will need more numbers to beat any of the above. 10.) Malice - If they can pull 50+ I can see them competing with CP and IR, I believe they would give IR a great fight, should be interesting. Hopefully nobody tries to start arguments over a personal opinion/prediction, because I am aware that this list could also be completely different depending on each clans pull, and performance. Looking forward to this weekend.

I already explained our reason for going to clan wars, it's where we intentionally went to regroup but you guys rushed us from behind. We fought FOE, went to BH, banked and got a quick fall-in, and told returners from FOE fight to go to clan wars...thats why our numbers went from low, to high within our 5-10 minutes of fighting. Respect for the fight though even though you guys wouldn't accept a planned run-in, and instead rushed our 75 opts...if you want me to say you won then I will if thats what it takes to make you happy, and make yourselves look good... Expect to see us Saturday though, perhaps more than once.

Lol not even gonna bother arguing on this topic, EOP had 24 people when you rushed us from behind when we were on our way to clan wars, which is 72 opts not 100, once we got a solid regroup for once we had even numbers as you...took us like two or three quick times to get everyone falled in on me at clan wars because we had no vent. If I recall correctly we were pushing you guys towards altar with like 30-35 people when MM crashed. I don't want any flaming in this post because it's your thread, dunno what happened EOP and CP used to be on good terms but it's kinda low to take a stab at us like that just to try and claim a fake win...whether it was for publicity or not...atleast state the true facts....you said our ending opts was 60 in clan wars, when in fact our ending opts was 90-105 and we were able to get some solid piles before MM crashed. Last but not least, you cut your vid off at the partright before EOP rushed you guys and started pushing you, here is the actual vid, you can see us chasing you guys south until we heard MM was coming and 5 seconds later MM crashed... Yes, im extremely bored....thats why I made this post. Cya Saturday I guess....and grats on the rest of your trip.

Good fight FOE. We were bored of hopping around looking for fights and our members wanted some action real bad so I decided to pretty much suicide, but do our best at the same time even though we knew we were outnumbered by about ~15-20 people....we lasted a nice bit though and imo put up a good fight...we knew FOE had the upper hand and even after returning a couple times we diecided it was best for us to just regroup in clan wars. EOP started with 47 people and ended with 30...thanks for the fight FOE and gj on your victories...especially against MM. :)

I wouldn't even bother mentioning the fight vs EOP. I doubt it was even much of a fight, we were hopping, and I normally don't log until most of EOP is logged out. I hopped and there was 75 opts of EOP left when I logged, and as soon sd I logged I seen white dots and blue capes coming. The EOP that were left pretty much logged before you got a chance to attack anyone, with the exception of about 15-20 people maybe...other than that you guys never fought EOP at all...when we hopped from you guys that was near the peak of our trip when we had 60 people...in which case the fight would have been much different..grats on the few EOP you did kill, and grats on your trip, looking forward to more F2P action from TLP, but like I said our fight wasn't worth mentioning due to the fact you only fought about 20% of us.

Im just trying to express our side of the story, before we even fought our members were told to go to clan wars to regroup, just because we were fighting, and EOP went to clan wars for 30-60 seconds for a regroup which is what we initially had planned on doing anyways, then came back out with a successful push - one that could have possibly took you guys out if MM didn't interupt our fight because at that point we had about 30 people left. Keep in mind im not trying to claim a win, im just saying that the fight was not in either EOP's or CP's favour, sure you guys got us in the beginning of the fight cause we were outnumbered but once our returners came we got more momentum. If you want to call it a win, then by all means you can think what you like and i'll respect your opinion anyways because everyone thinks differently, the fact is we were pushing CP with our ~30 people when MM crashed therefore I see no clear winner.

Not here to argue but I would say EOP vs CP was a tie. I already mentioned why we went to clan wars, thats where we were telling our members to go after our fight vs FOE for a regroup. You guys caught us off-guard which gave you an advantage for the first 2-3 minutes of the fight, then we got all our numbers after regrouping for a minute and pushed CP from south of clans wars towards chaos altar, the fight was rather spread out but we were doing some damage in the end before MM crashed us both. People were returning to the trip from the FOE fight still while we were fighting you guys, thats why our numbers increased as time went on. As for us hugging clan wars for 20 minutes like you say, thats over-exxagerating because the fight itself was only about 10 minutes long. Was a fun fight, lasted pretty long, but there was no clear winner....maybe we will get another chance next weekend.

When did CP beat us? We were asking you for run-in's and trying to track you for 75% of our trip but you guys kept ignoring us. We fought once, and that is when we were walking from chaos altar to clan wars to regroup after our fight vs FOE....you guys rushed us from behind when we had about 20-25 people, we got too spread so we did a quick 30-60 second regroup at clan wars to gain some more numbers then came out and pushed back again....the fight was completely even until MM crashed, therefore I believe the win goes to MM. Todays trip: 01.) E - Grats on beating MM 02.) MM - Crashing is lovely. 03.) FOE - Good fight today we were super bored so decided to rush you guys lol. We lasted semi-long though for being outnumbered by about ~15 people. 04.) EOP - Peaked at 65 people w/o sign-ups, had about 50-55 throughout 90% of the trip until we got bored of having no fights and ended up rushing FOE for the lols. I believe we could have beat the below, remember that I am entitled to my own opinion. 05.) CP - Had a small fight against you guys near the end of our trip, unfortunately MM crashed and we never got to finish. Gj beating DP boys. 06.) FI - Seen you guys with 40-50 people today, not too bad of a pull, I think you guys could have beaten DP, possibly even CP aswell. 07.) DP - Seen them with about 50 people, you guys do well when out-numbering your opponents but when it comes to even opts or close to it, you guys have a little bit to work on...no flame intended. Was hoping to get a fight today but the only time we seen you guys today was when there was like 4 clans in the same area so it was bound to be crashed. 08.) TLP - Seen you guys today but not sure what your numbers was like. 09.) Malice - Never seen you guys at all but im assuming you probably pulled half decent and had an alright trip. 10.) IR - Never seen you guys out today, im assuming you guys had a trip though.

F2P Predictions for today: 01.) MM 02.) FOE 03.) E 04.) DP 05.) EOP 06.) FI 07.) CP 08.) M 09.) IR 10.) TLP

01.) MM 02.) FOE 03.) E 04.) TLP 05.) DP 06.) CP 07.) M 08.) IR 09.) EOP/FI 10.) FI/EOP 11.) DV 12.) C EOP hasn't done much solo pking the past few saturdays and sundays therefore I cannot rank us any higher, I expect us to rise slowly now that we are swiftly coming out of our slump. Saturday preds: 01.) MM 02.) FOE - I have a feeling... 03.) E 04.) DP 05.) EOP 06.) CP 07.) FI 08.) M 09.) TLP 10.) IR 11.) DV And no we do not have sign-ups, im just hoping for the best. :P

Good fight DP, I was there for the first two rounds. We made some even comebacks a few times but never really managed to get that last effort to pull off a lead, was fun though, had alot of new members from VO and other apps today and it showed us what we need to work on. We managed to pull more to this 30 min prep than we pulled to our previous saturday trips, congrats on your pull aswell. We should do a matched options war sometime in the near future, would be fun. :)

Cause he's Epidemic, obviously.