Ray

hey looks like you got a butt load of experience. We would love to have you in EOP! http://eruptionofpures.ipbfree.com #clan-eop

Dang I wish I wasn't 99 range so I could go train there Nice guide!

GO IR!!!

Awesome job IL =)

BAMP!

amazing year FOE!

If I knew how to play or if I owned the game, I might play.

I don't think anyone on these forums even play sc. All you're going to find are people who are like OMG I CAN BEAT U IN FASTEST!!! But good luck.

The conflicts that emerge within the pure community are either healthy in a competitive way, or are a lot more complicated than a teamwork issue. Thanks for trying but it takes a lot more to resolve anything.

EOP. Eop went from a long term slump to pulling high 90's.

MY PREDICTIONS FOR THIS WEEKEND!!! F2P: 1. E - E will want to start new years with a bang pulling about 120 but no clans are able to give them a good fight so they get bored 2. MM - Will do the same as always new years or not 3. EOP - Put some emphasis on the new year. Will pull close to 100. MM has better organization so MM will still beat EOP with a slight number disadvantage but EOP will outnumber FOE by enough to take #3 4. FOE - Will pull in the 70's and give EOP really good fights but the numbers are the issue. 5. Fi - Fi is the fastest uprising clan right now and will overtake DP and CP this weekend P2P: 1. FOE - Numbers and amazing organization/skill. 2. MM - Will be able to give FOE a good fight but definitely a leg behind in p2p 3. TLP - Because of numbers, TLP would probably be #3 p2p, but their organization makes them way above #4 and #5 4. Fi - Extremely pro in p2p and will pull just enough to take #4 5. Dp - Great in p2p as usual

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My post did stray from what most people believed to be pure. The intent of my post is to open up people's minds and ask themselves why is a pure defined by the defense level.

bump!

CP will definitely have the +5 over TGG. I think that +5 will make it a victory for CP.

I missed the war, but looked fun!

Ok sorry for the wait, was just at a New Year's party, and I got another one coming up so I might not read any posts until tomorrow. Ok Bob, all you points are either straw man arguments or sweeping generalizations. I'll just point out each one so you don't keep repeating them in every post. Don't reply to this part, I'm just stating this so that we can get somewhere. First, when your leader and staff members do something, don't try to cover it up by saying it was a member when you know full well it was not. I'm reasonable not to hold your entire clan accountable when a member does something stupid. I've been spammed by members from all different clans including E, and I don't look down on any of the clans because of it. The clan does not hold accountable the actions of single immature members. When it's your leader and staff, it's rather difficult to prove your innocence. For example, if one of the leaders in MM lead the clan to do a ddos and spam attack on you, you probably will like MM a lot less regardless of whether 13th agreed with it or not. Secondly, in the Ascendency incident, you did carry out your threats so don't try to say that nothing was carried out. You know full well that you led your clan to crash us, and your other leader led a spam attack on our IRC while he was flaming and threatening us. In the following week we didn't even go pking, and the week after that we avoided you guys like the plague. We took preventative measures to combat your threats. I don't know what you would have done in the following weeks, but I'm pretty certain that one of your other leaders' intentions were to carry out the threats even further. Thirdly, I know that you guys don't crash the most. You can interview everyone in Runescape all you want. I'm sure if you bothered to interview people in clans that don't like you, the results would be a bit difference. You can interview me even and since I'm apparently super biased against Epidemic, then me saying that you guys don't crash the most must mean something. I'm pretty sure you are just interviewing people just so you can tell them that I'm making up stuff when you made up this entire thing in the first place. The truth is, Epidemic crashes us the second most next to MM. As I have stated numerous times, I am annoyed, but I don't hold it against you if you accidentally crash us. I never said anything about how accidental crashing is wrong. I'm talking about you crashing BH minis and preps, and also intentionally crashing. I don't have a problem if you see us when you were just walking around, but I do have a problem if I can't ever have a clean fight vs EOP and before I get a BH prep or mini vs another clan, I have to make damn sure that Epidemic likes them. Fourthly, for the TGG incident, I understand that Epidemic was not the only clan to blame. I can assure you that I wasn't very nice to EOP either. I'm talking about how Epidemic doesn't even realize that it's wrong and showed a great deal of disrespect on the topic by boasting about it and posting kill pics. I am more than forgiving when people realize their faults and apologize, but it looks like you're the only one that notices something wrong with it. Lastly, I am not accountable for the actions of EOP. I am newly joined member who's starting to regret joining. I do realize their wrongdoings and I am taking action against it. You cannot compare me with the people in Epidemic who think they did the greatest thing in the world by hurting other clans. Now that we got that out of the way, let's focus on what's important and hope no more misunderstandings occur. Just to make things easier for the both of us, I'll just ask specific questions instead of outlining entire situations. The only thing that we established so far is that you feel it's alright to crash preps and minis in BH. In the past, A had several BH minis vs E. Even though E had a lot of enemies, we never saw a single one of them. Personally, I am grateful to those clans that they let us have a BH mini. My question is, are you grateful towards your enemy clans when they do not crash your BH events? About intentionally crashing clans. When you crash a fight, you are hurting both clans. If the clan you didn't mean to hurt crashes you back, what will you do? I don't mean what do you think is right, I'm asking what Epidemic will do when it happens. Now about the Ascendency incident. We believe that if a clan unintentionally crashes us, it is wrong to take action against them. You said that in one of your posts as well, but that is clearly not what you did. My question to you is why did you not forgive us for accidentally crashing you when we forgave you every time you crashes us? My question for your other leader and your staff is where is the eye for an eye when unintentional crashing is paid with a crash, an IRC spamming, and a porn spamming and a credible threat to make us slump/close. As for the TGG incident, my question to you is does the actions of a leader and several staff members hold the clan accountable? My question to everyone else in Epidemic is why is it essential to boast about it and post kills pics and show all sorts of disrespect towards TGG? Does a single one of you realize that maybe you were wrong after you did it, or do you still all believe that you are righteous? @Prateek Fatality has one of the greatest communities out there. I was very fortunate to experience it first hand before their staff all retired. And yes, you will be seeing a lot of walls of text from me.

It was a troll

Since you're getting tired of this, I'll keep this one quick. I'm getting tired as well. If you don't feel like reading this now, come back to it later. This post will always be there for you. Not saying that the entirety of Epidemic liked to porn bomb other clans. I am claiming that Epidemic has a staff member that does. I am probably mistaken for the EOD spam. Sorry about that accusation. The point I was trying to make is that Epidemic has members and staff that spam other clan's IRC's. My point still stands. My point is not about how often Epidemic crashes. I don't keep a tally of how many times you crash us. It can very well range from occasionally as your interviewees state, to nearly every week as I state. The amount doesn't matter. My point is that you crash us a considerable amount and we forgive you for it and have never taken retributive action. We understand that you were just walking around when you happened to run into us, or you were trying to hit another clan and we were caught in the crossfire. I personally don't agree with the latter, and I am quite annoyed when your vengeance is more important than our planned run-ins, but I understand. When we finally crash you unintentionally, you go to far extents to get revenge on us. You are not the only clan that we have unintentionally crashed though. There have been a few other times where we accidentally ran into another clan while they were fighting, but all they did was crash us back. I understand their doings, but I cannot understand the extent that Epidemic had to go to. I can understand that if you get crashed by another clan, you would want to crash them back. The scenario that I presented forth had nothing to do with that. I was wondering why you would crash a BH prep war. When clans go out on their Saturday trips, they expect to be crashed at least once. It's a part of Saturday pking. If nobody ever crashed, then it would be no different from pcl. When clans have a BH mini/prep though, it is not meant to be crashed. The clans are just getting bored of clan wars classic. Massing up and crashing a BH prep like you did is on a whole different level than crashing a Saturday trip. Again, I don't really need to dig out the proof if my point was already proven. You intentionally crash a lot more fights than any other clans do. I respect that you realized BSing TGG's event was wrong and you wouldn't have done it yourself. I am not blaming the entirety of the clan on this one incident, but I am criticizing that Epidemic has a leader, several staff, and a large portion of members that enjoy doing this kind of thing. CP and EOP aren't exactly angels either. The difference is that EOP realized that they were wrong, while Epidemic doesn't realize at all and showed a great deal of disrespect on that topic. I'm glad that at least you see that it was wrong and you apologized for it. If you can read posts from PC staff boards, that's a bit of an issue. As I have stated already, I in no manner agree with the wrongdoings of EOP staff and I will leave if things get worse. As for your last statement, I can understand that crashing leads to crashing back, but it's got to stop there. If someone crashes you, you don't need to spam out their IRC and tell them that they need to close, nor do you need to crash their BH prep wars. You speak as though crashing is the only thing that I criticized you about. I have already faced the truth. I do have a grudge against you and it started off with the Ascendency incident. Ascendency and Epidemic were pretty close back then and I can honestly say that I liked you guys. Then you suddenly betrayed us and treated us like an enemy. I can understand if we were already your enemy and you treat us that way, but it hurts because you were our friends. I admit I probably required more evidence when I accused you of spamming EOD. Everything else you admit to. I don't know why you or Plode threw in that argument when it's not true. This discussion is not about me trying to prove you did any of that, it's about why you did it. If you would like to talk more when you are more interested in walls of text, I'd be up for that. I am also sorry if I made you angry or anything. I just felt like having a discussion about something. I actually don't care nearly as much as I make myself look.

That was actually a decent comeback, but it still didn't address anything important.

My mistake, it was actually MM that BSed TGG's xmas event. I read all the names wrong. If you care to contribute, then by all means say something contributing.

This is not a flame war, it's a civilized discussion regarding a serious matter.

Yes, and had he not realized that it was wrong and given TGG a formal apology, I wouldn't be in EOP today. The difference of what Goop did and what everyone else in E did was that Goop kept it ingame. He did not boast about it afterwards and post kill pics. I'm more than forgiving when people realize when they do something wrong and are sorry for it.

awesome job EOD!!! Sefket ftw!

First of all, you are not convincing anybody by presenting straw-man arguments. I never said E porn bombed our forums, not this time or the last time we spoke, but you keep on saying that so you can deny it. I said that you guys spammed porn in our IRC. It's not hard to tell that it's E because once I whois the guy, it turns out as a registered E nick. As for EOD, good job for not spamming them today, but I'm not talking about today. I'm talking about last week and Sefket wasn't there. Once again, it's not hard to tell that it's people from E when I just whois them and it turns out as a registered E nick. Now as for the threats that one of your leaders made back then. You crash us occasionally, nearly once a week. We understand that you guys were just walking around and happened to saw us and just attacked. We forgave you every time you did that without asking for an apology. Then we accidentally crashed you guys for the very first time. There are only two BH worlds and you guys were fighting right outside clan wars. I don't know how you expect not to get crashed. Instead of just talking to us about it, you decided to intentionally crash us, spam out our IRC, flame, and make threats to us. Maybe from your point of view, you only threatened to make us slump/close because you're mad, but from our point of view, Epidemic has a reputation of carrying it out. We see the kinds of things you did to EOP, IR, and Cy. When you threaten to do the same to us, we're not alright with it. What bothers me is that you believe that you can crash us all you like because we don't have to have good trips, but when we crash you just once, it's the end of the world and we must close down for it. As for intentionally crashing, I don't find that right at all, I don't think anyone does. Since you are not denying it and you see nothing wrong with it, I'll let you keep your opinion. As for crashing Fi, when some people in Fi including myself complained about it, Plode said something along the lines of "You declined our run-in so we had to crash you. What else were we supposed to do?" If you want, I can go dig it up, but I really don't have the effort to. In the TGG xmas event, people didn't point their fingers at you because of MM and FOE. Just look at the topic. All I see are Epidemic members and staff, and even a leader boasting about it and posting kill pics. I don't find the slightest bit of respect in that. It wasn't just something bad that a few of your members did. Your leader and staff were there. This act does not represent the misconduct of a few immature members, it represents your clan. I'm glad that you apologized in the leader boards, but it doesn't make it right that you did it in the first place. Now for our other post about EOP staff spamming, don't think for a second that I'm not against it. I'm taking action to stop that kind of thing, and if it gets worse, I can assure you that I won't be wearing an EOP tag for a long time. Don't think I'm biased against Epidemic. If EOP ever becomes like you, I will hate them just as much. I can understand that as a clan leader, your job is to protect the reputation of your clan, but you have to face your crimes. People will hate you for what you do.