Forty Lashes

Konka last I checked you backed down from a dm so you haven't room to speak. You dont even have chaotic to begin with kid. You'd /heartbeat irl if you could even match half that risk l0l0l0llolol Takes a man to hide behind a botnet, one day your garbage account might be half as decent as mine; doubt it. I'm still down for a hybrid dm if you have a pair, or does talking out your ass on forums suit you better?

Ok, stay on your different forums and stop bothering a community that doesn't want you or recognize you as a pure. you sound pretty upset man.

Because you're entitled to your opinion just as much as I am. and I'm on different forums - pure warfare is barely active anyway.

Said wall of text ^ If you say thats trolling you're a downie.

No it took me a few months to make this account, started august 09, been off and on for a few months. 2 defence isnt pure, accident or not - failures = impurity, to let one mistake in is to let them all. And you're incorrect; not everyone makes mistakes. find something flawed the wall of text I posted earlier. see below.

Legends cape pure ownij guiz@!@!

Ah now you're going to hurt my feelings :[ Prove your purity. Nice sarcasm. I don't need to prove my purity as most people using this forum known what a real pure is, especially those who have been here for over the last three years or so go tank bandits or something. Your view is completely twisted and self centered. 3 years of runescape?!?! wow u must know what old wild wus liek! Self centered? IM NOT PURE YOU IDIOT. But neither is anyone else that has anything other than hp and sharks as a form of defence... 43 prayer is for bandits not for pking. So you said you're not pure. Can you ask any of Chaotic's ranks if Chaotic is a pure clan? If all say yes, why are you there. 3 years of runescape?!?! wow u must know what old wild wus liek! Self centered? IM NOT PURE YOU IDIOT. But neither is anyone else that has anything other than hp and sharks as a form of defence... 43 prayer is for bandits not for pking. any clan that accepts over 1 def isn't a pure clan.

your clan has someone with 17 def. lol. at least i didn't **** up.

Is malice a new clan or something? or is it a person?

Ah now you're going to hurt my feelings :[ Prove your purity. Nice sarcasm. I don't need to prove my purity as most people using this forum known what a real pure is, especially those who have been here for over the last three years or so go tank bandits or something. Your view is completely twisted and self centered. 3 years of runescape?!?! wow u must know what old wild wus liek! Self centered? IM NOT PURE YOU IDIOT. But neither is anyone else that has anything other than hp and sharks as a form of defence... 43 prayer is for bandits not for pking.

Ah now you're going to hurt my feelings :[ Prove your purity.

Well I'm doing it. If you can claim to be a pure then so can I. Logic works both ways. can't talk atm though - busy getting legends cape on my pure.

Read this through before repeating yourself again. The definition of pure comes down to perspective, as said earlier regardless of perspective I'm still here anyway. Even if you don't think I'm pure, I'm in a clan that fights pures, you may think I don't belong, but if I have an account with low def that kills 1 def better than 1 def does at the same combat - The clan benefits from my presence. Im not a rune pure. Im not a tank. Im not a turmoil pure. I don't max at an insanely high combat - and I still have low def. 1 def with 99 prayer isn't pure - it's extraneous. At the same time 43 prayer can be considered unpure due to the fact there's nothing offensive about protections - pure's get them to defend themselves - how much different is that from getting defense directly to defend yourself instead? Barrows gloves are 12 strength bonus, not 9 - and I got them for their attack/defence bonus as well. However it's not only barrows gloves I got combats for, It's versatile gear that I can get free on death like agile armour. This brings back pking similar to old wild; where you could return on death and recover your untradeables. You may have experience, but your support of the build is for the wrong reasons. While you may find rune pures to be more effective; what you must understand is to be effective on a rune pure, is to be more effective on a main. Why limit yourself to switching between rune and mystic when you can be switching out of max gear all the same on a main, getting better loot, hitting higher, and having everything to do in the game? The answer to that question is Purity, Because stuff like that doesn't matter enough to you to be worthwhile; it's extraneous. You limit yourself to what you need to be effective and have fun in the combat range of your choice. Main pking gets boring, just as rune pure pking does. Throughout the boredom on my zerker I found 35 defence would not only be a more effective hybrid at a lower combat, but equally cost effective - and upon making it I can claim a fulfilled 35 defence pure to be a more fun account. There's nothing 40 defence has that I need - so going any higher would be a waste. And 1-30 defence doesn't have enough going for it for me to even consider it. Thats my purity - everything I need and nothing I don't while remaining a low combat with heavy offensive, and having fun. What 1 def gains in power it loses in vulnerability, I have the best of both worlds.

so what is it you've got to prove anyway?

No, it's just you - I'm not really disrespecting you either - don't be so sensitive.

actually more like 10 seconds, guess that answers the dsylexic question. got anything else or are you ready to come to terms with being wrong?

How about you try the same; this time put your glasses on and read slowly. j/w u dyslexic bro?

present them. You're all talk and no walk.

You might want to do a sniff too m8, 11 def 53 prayer is pretty srs.

you don't know, baby we know, and as said by others I know. Just cause I caught you, don't be ashamed, it happens Caught me? You haven't said anything that I haven't shut down sweetcheeks. When you can measure up hit me up mang = http://forums.zybez.net/topic/1274099-the-agile-pure-guide/

Where is the arrogance? What because I actually know what I'm talking about and laying down statistics that makes me big headed? Whatever. Think what you want; I don't care - your opinion doesn't remove whats there already. Done talking, I've said what needs to be said ~ you keep repeating yourself instead of comprehending the rebuttle, and countering them with something apart from repeating the same comment over and over. You're as incapable of comprehending as you say I am, I've laid down the facts - if you believe other wise - I'll see you in the wild.

lol because you guys are the first to troll 35 def evarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. how am I going to sleep at night, guess I better go snort some seroquel that way I don't have to cry myself to sleep tonight because of cyberbullies on the interwebs :[[[[

thats about the biggest piece of ******** as i have ever read. First off a pure is a pure. insanely low defence for high offensive. IDC there is not point in 13 prayer if your opponent is just goin to flop up overheads everytime, plus higher prayer lasts longer than 13 prayer. 13 prayer doesnt last that long in f2p battles, plus in p2p if you get smited its pretty much just a waste. A pure is not low attack. pretty much today everyone gets 60 attack for maximum damage in specs. a pure is 1 defence, but errors do occur they stack up over the years(look at mahatma hes 17 defence). most people get 20 after 11 defence for rune gloves, and better armor in f2p. fighting 20 def on a 1 def isnt bad its doable. But 30+ defence just makes it impossible without high attack bonus(whip and crossbow). 35+defence just makes it worse. Should pure clans accept 40-70 defence rangers because they max at the same combat as a max pure? no, even though you are going to yes cause u were dropped on your head as a child. You belong nowhere cause your account is obsolete. Idc if its effective, the statistics show that 40 def is more effective(no its not theory you adolescense). Almost every account in runescape is effective. its mostly just the guy behind the pker. Maybe team inc will accept you because thats the only place where you could remotely belong. *you max out at 90 combat, whereas a rp maxes out at 91* do you know how stupid that is? the bonuses are so op at 40 defence than comparing it to 30-35. With that being said the bonuses at 30+ compared to 20 or 1 are op. Loving the personal attacks; very cliche of someone speaking on behalf of pures and shows you can't hold your own without taking a debate to a personal level. Until you chill out any statement you have to make invalid; chill out... this is a runescape forum bro. You don't know the first thing about statistics...get 40 def for 1 strength bonus? thats a combat level for less than a fraction of a hit difference... if you want to say that is worth it; then the max hit difference between 40 and 45 is greater, so that is 2.5 combats. vengeance is useless on a hybrid. rune is extraneous and not needed. I'm a good hybrid and there is NEVER an excuse to switch to rune in a hybrid fight. if you are switching to rune; it's to defend against range or melee... if you are being ranged you switch to a melee weapon... if you're frozen and can't melee back you range back with no disadvantage whatsoever. If someone is meleeing you, it's time to freeze and tag with melee - if they are in dhides their melee defence is equivalent to adamant anyway... even then you can still melee hides in range armour as well with no disadvantage in the fight. /query Forty-Lashes in irc for more hybriding lessons. I think the point Celtic, like almost every other person on here is trying to make, is that your account is not pure and shouldn't (though it will be anyway, so theres no point crying about it) be let into pure clans. The concept of a pure isn't hard to understand, you sacrifice defence and prayer in order to maintain higher offensive stats. You're just using armour and weapons to make up for the fact that the account itself isn't pure, which is what mains do. I don't know what else needs to be said.. what about people with 13 def? they get more armour and weapons and I doubt many fret over it's impurity upon applying. I get your point; but just because you have 1 def doesn't necessarily make you a pure. Pure means free from extraneous things. For me, I have what I need to pk effectively and nothing more for my combat; barrows gloves are what I've noticed make the difference on the account; I'm not 40 def or higher because I don't need anything else. While barrows gloves may be extraneous in your perspective; it's not in mine. I fall into the combat frame of pure clans, my defence is still low - making tank references are very inaccurate because I'm less than half of that defence; and tanks have options in other clans. Say what you will - think what you think - you're entitled to your perspective as much as I am - and I'm here to stay.

thats about the biggest piece of ******** as i have ever read. First off a pure is a pure. insanely low defence for high offensive. IDC there is not point in 13 prayer if your opponent is just goin to flop up overheads everytime, plus higher prayer lasts longer than 13 prayer. 13 prayer doesnt last that long in f2p battles, plus in p2p if you get smited its pretty much just a waste. A pure is not low attack. pretty much today everyone gets 60 attack for maximum damage in specs. a pure is 1 defence, but errors do occur they stack up over the years(look at mahatma hes 17 defence). most people get 20 after 11 defence for rune gloves, and better armor in f2p. fighting 20 def on a 1 def isnt bad its doable. But 30+ defence just makes it impossible without high attack bonus(whip and crossbow). 35+defence just makes it worse. Should pure clans accept 40-70 defence rangers because they max at the same combat as a max pure? no, even though you are going to yes cause u were dropped on your head as a child. You belong nowhere cause your account is obsolete. Idc if its effective, the statistics show that 40 def is more effective(no its not theory you adolescense). Almost every account in runescape is effective. its mostly just the guy behind the pker. Maybe team inc will accept you because thats the only place where you could remotely belong. *you max out at 90 combat, whereas a rp maxes out at 91* do you know how stupid that is? the bonuses are so op at 40 defence than comparing it to 30-35. With that being said the bonuses at 30+ compared to 20 or 1 are op. Loving the personal attacks; very cliche of someone speaking on behalf of pures and shows you can't hold your own without taking a debate to a personal level. Until you chill out any statement you have to make invalid; chill out... this is a runescape forum bro. You don't know the first thing about statistics...get 40 def for 1 strength bonus? thats a combat level for less than a fraction of a hit difference... if you want to say that is worth it; then the max hit difference between 40 and 45 is greater, so that is 2.5 combats. vengeance is useless on a hybrid. rune is extraneous and not needed. I'm a good hybrid and there is NEVER an excuse to switch to rune in a hybrid fight. if you are switching to rune; it's to defend against range or melee... if you are being ranged you switch to a melee weapon... if you're frozen and can't melee back you range back with no disadvantage whatsoever. If someone is meleeing you, it's time to freeze and tag with melee - if they are in dhides their melee defence is equivalent to adamant anyway... even then you can still melee hides in range armour as well with no disadvantage in the fight. /query Forty-Lashes in irc for more hybriding lessons.

Proof? I always pk in agile and bgloves... 100k a death doesn't hurt my bank when I have access to frost dragons - and agile is free to get back on death like god capes or prayer books. Even been to a few trips in chaotic risk. Agile is harder to return in; like zamorak book - but I have a large quantity of bgloves on hand for returns. Usually I'll just return in dhide chaps and mystic/pros top... for trips I can usually get agile and every back within 2 minutes as I have teleports for all the places to get the untradeable gear back. to the person who posted the wall of text; I didn't make my account to dominate f2p, it's easy enough to f2p pk as it is. I have the tokens for gravite crap if I wanted to get it, I'd barely ever use it so it's better spent on another chaotic weapon. My hp is well above my combat level. i find it hard to believe you constantly return in b gloves more than maybe 2 times a trip, as a lot of fights, as they drag on, turn into welfare fights and people arent motivated to return in quality gear to get dropped by 1 itemers and welfare. and if you return in agile you have to first hop worlds and then get the armor and then hop back just for 1 return set, which makes you less useful as you'll have way longer return time; im sure you know this, so as you said, you return in mystic and dhides, making u just another 30 def, except with 35 def. also you talk about zammy books and god capes, but pures dont use those in pkri, or if they do they dont bother hopping to get them back b4 returning bc its not necessary to have it to be effective for a pure, whereas without your agile and gloves your offensive abilities arent anything special and much worse than a 30 def with turmoil. also you dont lose turmoil when you die, so 30 def turmoil is more effective for pkri as they can return in the same mystic and dhides you do instantly, except they have way more bonuses from prayer than you do. uh no. your flaw is that you judge how pure someone is by combat level in order to make yourself look pure, where as pures are based on def lvl. everyone has already said it, but ill say it anyway; ofc def is better vs no def, but thats not what pure clans are made for and your opinion doesn't change anything. at the end of the day the "offenisve bonuses" youre obessed with dont apply to your return sets and performance in pkri. and stop making it seem like every turmoil pure gets 99 attack so u can say they max at 108 combat; maybe 5% of turmoil 30 def pures are dumb enough to do that. regularly they max at 102 combat with 80 attack which is the max any 30 def usually gets. so no youre not more pure than 30 def turmoil in any way really. 102 combat? so that's more pure than maxed at 87, or 91 if i get dunge prayers? I hope you realize I'm 85 dungeoneering and can make 1.6m an hour easy... a 150k return set is the least of my problems... I don't die over 10 times in a war and even if I did I'd still break even. Hell, dying 10 times in a war would be a blessing to my drop heat. But all in all you're right, I don't return in bgloves over 3 times in a war usually - because I can't recall a war where I've died over 3 times before we've either won, or were crashed before then. What you must understand, is my first set lasts the longest - I'm typically over 100 magic defence in agile and whatnot - this allows me to divert my protections to range/melee, and that soaks up alot of the damage I receive. If you think pures in water staff and ghost robes are a threat to agile armour; I'm more than willing to let you try it in duel arena if you don't believe me If the war is held on a pvp world, I can return in agile in a timely fashion, i have all the teleports lined up in my pk tab, i can get agile in less than a minute... duel ring to mobilizing armies, spirit tree to gnome course... and then games necklace to barb course. If it isn't held on pvp or we need a.s.a.p returns, i bust out the tank gear (pros pl8/helm+dhide chaps) or return in zuriels if corrupt isn't off. Dying in bgloves isn't scratching my bank... I need the drop heat.