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Picture says 70. Your own clan members also say 70. I am lying? Rofl nice try kid. :lol: That is all Mahatma'd

gratz Fi

ohh the irony :D

looks like EOP has the #2 f2p spot locked down good job guys

The whole point about this topic is about using the advantages of defence in f2p. I'm not talking about getting rid of 30 def completely. Sadly you are not the only one who didn't read the topic. And the point is that the BIG clans are already going through with this. I mean look, even EOP banned addy from f2p trips. As to your main point about people leaving clans to join those who accept 30 def... if the clans left that accept 30 def are bad, nobody's going to join them, as simple as that. The main problem right now are Z, Fi, CP & TLP(?). If those clans ditched addy from f2p trips, then nobody would be influential enough to do anything about the death of addy in f2p. how is addy in f2p the problem? It's the fact that "PURES" have the option to wear it. They shouldn't be 30 def in the first place. If no one went and got 30 def to compete with the real pure clans there wouldn't be any problem as to what gear to wear on pk trips.

Think MM's banned from posting topics here? Just an fyi : whenever FOE or EOP don't post a trip topic it's probably because MM won that day.

Damn, good response (being serious)

well I'd personally propose all the clans that actually abide by pure clanning rules: - Only accept 1 - 20 def - No turmoil - AN HONOR CODE etc ... go and create their own community.

if you go by historic preference; 20 def is pure . Confused how people will claim 20 def IS NOT PURE , yet the majority of clans on this forum accept 30 + def . . .

cheers TLP

If both EOP and MM had signups it's safe to say both failed as pulls seemed low . . . Regardless I never trust an EOP topic or the majority of here on Pure Warfare :thumbsup:

I'm going to stop right here. My definition of failure as stated earlier in this topic is the notion that clans, the community, and individual players no longer abide by the definitions of "pures" and many have just used the defense to counteract other clans. There's no need to go get 35+ defense on a PURE clanning account. The failure had occurred with the majority acceptance of this as the norm. So yes, pure clans have failed. Just because other clans accept 30+ defense doesn't mean you can just write off 20 def as not being pure also. What do clans accepting 30 defence have to do with 20 defence not being pure. That's like saying Pot accepts 45 defence, so you can't say 35 defence isn't pure. If you can wear steel you're a main. You can't group anything above 10+ def as a main just because some kids ran off with 30+ def being called pure. This is based off historic definition and length of time for 20 def being accepted in the community as pure. It's very foolish to try and write people who have 20 def off as being "just as main as 35 def" . Because they aren't nor ever will be. You example is dumb because I'm referring to clans who existed throughout the "pure" era between around 04' - '10 . Many of these clans today who are now filled with mains once obeyed the guidelines that 1-20 def was pure. This was the standard. Now those same clans have abandoned that standard and fools like yourself try to justify that by claiming "Well you know anything above steel isn't pure". 20 defense had been accepted by all PURE clans, FOE, EOP, MM, TLP, FI, CP, TH, E as being pure and that was the census of the community. 30 defense was viewed as being unpure by all of the following clans listed above, and I especially remember 3 hit u pure getting a lot of flames for being in FI w/ 30 def (being the only exception). Clans BOOTED kids who got past 20 def etc ... So unless you're going to go back and change time your argument is clearly wrong. Thanks :thumbsup:

Or saved themselves by accepting 30 + def :teehee: But to stay on topic: Old Fatality but mostly Epidemic

I'm going to stop right here. My definition of failure as stated earlier in this topic is the notion that clans, the community, and individual players no longer abide by the definitions of "pures" and many have just used the defense to counteract other clans. There's no need to go get 35+ defense on a PURE clanning account. The failure had occurred with the majority acceptance of this as the norm. So yes, pure clans have failed. Just because other clans accept 30+ defense doesn't mean you can just write off 20 def as not being pure also.

all i noticed was 20 def at lvl 70 l000l

First things first ; I think it can be attributed to lack of a stable, supporting community Secondly; rivalries have gotten soo intense that clans have begun to use defense as an advantage so they can post petty "win" topics Thirdly; lack of coordination between pure clans Fourth; the allowance of such petty topics which are obviously flames and baits towards others. Complete lack of maturity from both the posters and mods Fifth; the fact that this topic which is harmless in nature will probably get deleted

MM and Epidemic pulled 125 + for a few weeks straight . . . . in case anyone forgot

back in his scamming days of dead1y arrow lol bet not many people remember that either ;p I remember - Deadmau5 :thumbsup:

Pure Community when clans were actually pure

ahh , back in the day when people actually had PURE accounts. Also it's so ironic seeing FI, EOP , and FOE argue about 30 + def turmoil accounts. You all accept them, you all gave up the meaning of a "pure clan" and with that has gone the majority of what once was a great community. :thumbsup:

the old Fatality was amazing B)

Hilarious, your probably the 100th person to do that. Idiot

obviously it wasn't agreed by all 4 clans, otherwise we wouldn't be complaining ^^^^^^^^^It's either that or train defense nowadays. "Guys 3 rounds of snowball fight" "No, 1 round snowball then next 2 geared CLW" "Ok" Outcome : MM + Z win 2 / 3 .................... FOE + FI win 1/3 Aftermath: Excuses from FOE , Flaming from FOE , Complaining from FOE, Sad part is being in clan wars means you guys can't even use half the excuses you use when you lose in the wildy. Technically it was one round of a snowball fight. Then a prep afterwards in which there was confusion with the friends chat 1st round. I myself as well as at least 3 other Fatality members were kicked because of people trying to join the FC to cause trouble. So MM+Z won that round, congratz being up by 10. Next round up still they lost and proceeded to bow out in shame instead of finishing the prep with a clear winner. Excuses? Poor word choice. To explain (a fault or an offense) in the hope of being forgiven or understood Clearly not a poor word choice because that's what you're making. Let me use it in a sentence for you. Due to FOE+Fi's EXCUSES, MM+Zenith now understand why FOE+FI were only able to win 1/3 rounds in the event. haven't heard one MM or Zenith member even attempt to justify the loss or make an excuse from it. I'm sure they could pull from Zenith's "Zalmon" combinations (awesome btw!), oak short bows, or the fact that no one really cared lol. Regardless it just shows a clear difference between the participating clans. LOL @ Addy Daddy's response. You can admit defeat it's ok :thumbsup:

FOE pmed me and said you broke rules. Auto win for IR. Sorry :P

the old FATALITYY ^_^