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In terms of the NME thing ; http://nme-rs.com/forums/index.php?/topic/...sociated-words/ In terms of the UP thing ; that sucks they had potential to add a different element to the stale pure world, hope the members find somewhere decent to go.

2004 to 2005 Acid/Iron Legends > Final Ownage > MM 2007 I joined Epidemic V1 and became elite member shortly after, wilderness was removed and visited a few places in between such as CP, and then started leading Epidemic V2 when PvP worlds came back. Following our closure after achieving everything we set out to achieve (120 pulls, #1 F2P) I just had fun with friends until I opened NME as a low level clan capped at 48-65 to prove that a low level pure clanCOULD be successful in todays pure world and to sort of give a blueprint for future leaders on how to operate from a low level clan to a clan with one of the best set of averages in the community.

:teehee: first the "#1" topic title and now this, I certainly feel loved good job on the wins, looked like you owned it up today. ps BV probably had more say in if Epidemic closed or not than FOE ahahahaha

Nice to see my joke about hon0rs wheelchair has taken a life of its own In all seriousness though, good job on the win. I like the fact Hostility are one of the more active clans in the f2p wild. Keep it up

Good win for us, thanks for the preps to the clans we fought.

Original topic title, wonder if anyone understands my reference... Good job on the win though, stepping it up to MM in a big way. Keep it up

The Alliance we're in is a "Logical Alliance", IE, its logic to team up with a clan your fighting to destroy crashers for over an hour. The Alliance XL is a part of is called the "Bail Out Alliance", IE, you spam the hell out of your fellow alliance leaders IRC when your losing so they come and crash it to save you from a loss. Two very distinct alliances... Thanks for the fights to Activation and XL.

The wilderness isn't dead, its a combination of about 100k less active users, and the fact we're participants of the pure community and the pure community is on its deathbed. Despite what these idealistic people who keep going on about "2007" and how active the wild was; they're deluded. There wasn't a clan or masser team in all 100+ worlds, and clans didn't go out every day without fail. People sugarcoat that period far too much. You were new to clans and it was exciting. News flash, thats 5 years ago. Of course your going to feel the wilderness is dying after you've seen 100k players filter out of the game across 5 years. You guys are far too happy to just moan about the current situation and reminisce about the "old days", when in actuality 1.) The wilderness system is identical to the one of your 2007 fantasies, 2.) Your not remembering your 2007 fantasies properly and remembering it as far more exciting than it actually was. IMO the PvP world era was the peak time to be clanning. I'm not denying the wilderness is far less active these days, but outside from the 100 000 missing players, F2P is absolutely identical to 2007 in terms of the system used. Its us and this community that has taken us away from the older, active days, not the wilderness.

Nice win

... and lost Goodjob TLP, looks like an enjoyable midweek trip.

Shame, goodluck to where ever all the ex Havoc go. Stick together

For me personally, for the sole reason of the pure world been in a better state than it currenty is it was probably leading Epidemic throughout that year we achieved #1 If NME was created a few years earlier however, it'd be NME.

I have nothing else to say, feel free to find your way around obvious proof of you guys lying. Remember, once a liar, always a liar. People respect honesty, any day you can be a clan someone respects or you can continue being this. Seems like the topics been won, the KDR ratios tell a completely different story. Regardless, hope you guys had fun. See you next weekend hopefully for some more fights

Good job guys, awesome new MPC if anyones interested in an up and coming clan I'd suggest this one. Keep it up

Saturday 1.) MM 2.) EOP 3.) Fi 4.) FOE 5.) NME 6.) Z 7.) CP 8.) Hi 9.) XL 10.) IR

Was a good trip. To the members of CP, think about it. Your in mossies most of the time, and you sit in single whilst we're in multi, avoiding fights where possible. You mass at our location with 15 people less than us and flame about OUR pull. Just because your leaders are jealous of how successful and good we are, your entire clan is based around NME right now. Look at all the sigs they've been getting made, all the topics on your forums dedicated to us, some retards have even changed their RSN to crap like "NME SUCKS" haha. Your leaders are feeding your propaganda because of THEIR shortcomings in leadership. Try thinking about it yourself for once. Why would you sit in mossies whilst we're in single if your not afraid to fight? Why would you call IR+XL a week after flaming NME for teaming with Zenith when you crashed our fight? As for CP's lies, its a shame we have .bcount and video and picture evidence to support our claims and you have some sort of weird sig to support yours. (22:02:49) <[NME]Bot> Good: 40/48 - Bad: 25 - Style: - (22:03:23) <@[NME]Sean> .bcount (22:03:25) <[NME]Bot> Good: 37/48 - Bad: 54 - Style: - So basically Martys made a script that counts the number of NME members as opposed to enemies in the same area. We have 40, having lost 8 people during our fight, whilst you morons were at 25. I'm sure some of CP were at mossies because thats your default action (despite us being "lilguys" and you guys having an average level 15 levels higher, your getting destroyed by NME), but the fact remains, we were clearing you rapidly before you called IR. (29 people... lol) You flamed last week about us "Teaming" with Zenith when you crashed our fight, but this time you actually team with other clans to crash the fight when your LOSING a 1 vs 1 with CP and NME. Hypocritical, but then again you'll try anything just to get one up on the great NME that 75% of your forum posts are about lately. Your leaders are obsessed with NME and it's eventually gonna be detrimental to your clan. With Toxine retiring, read between the lines. Your into something that can't be solved quickly or simply, and his instinct is to bail. What happens when the other leaders figure the same thing out? Are they gonna bail too? Is your notoriously unstable leadership going to crumble under pressure, ripping your clan apart and sending you back to 25 pulls? To IR, you'd do best to stay out of this. Remember the times you were pulling 10 people and getting 6 kills on your entire Saturday trip? If you remember properly its because NME crushed you week after week when we were level 60s. We had a decent trip. Can't wait for next week now.

lol mini unit

Its really interesting to see how much we have improved over the months we've been opened, starting from 10 level 52s fighting clans such as Resurgence and Negative and now we have got an average combat of 80-85 for 90% of the events we have, and are pulling 50s consistently on a 65 person memberlist. Possibly the most rewarding thing to do in clanning; bring a clan up from the absolute bottom of the pile. Good job on the win guys, the improvement is noticeable here as over the past weeks we've lost consistently to Zenith but now we've overcome it. Thanks for the flame free fight Z.

Looks like you did well, nice job.

Its probably a favor to us when obsessed clans ddos our teamspeak, we have always been better without TS in clan wars haha. Good job NME, confident win.

Well put together topic, my main problem with the community for me personally is the mindset of people in relation to the community. Im sure alot of you people are lovely in real life but because of the pack mentality associated with a clan its almost as if I'm watching 8 year olds trying to one up the other in stupidity. The concept behind "trolling" on these boards is contorted beyond belief, some clans go way too far with it and end up in territory that isn't so much insulting to those they are trying to troll but themselves looking like absolute weirdos, to expand on the metaphor looking like the 8 year old at the back of the class throwing pencils at the back of the person in fronts head. It isn't funny to anyone intelligent and lacks purpose. If clans would just learn to enjoy themselves properly as opposed to the hollowness of trying ridiculously hard for the community to see them as "bad ass" (When in most cases the community look at them in a bad light) then it probably has a chance at improving as opposed to the steady decline its been in. EIther way, good topic hopefully people read some of the posts and try to change for the better.

Don't know if I've already done one on this topic but i'll do a new one if I have seeing as it's been re-bumped, pretty much parts from the clans I've led Leader Ivp Ben Marty Advisors Bob Plodey Warlords Jib Prateek Poison High Council Scott Sean Altus Lucky Hit3r Jatt Charlie Generals Rage Cutter Hulkin Ashley Legends Fayth Edb I Str I Kill Chandrew Blackman Derrick Hatton et cetera

Nice win Zenith, thanks for the prep

Nice wins, looks like fun

You guys gonna be coming out this week? :)