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Looks really fun, nice job guys. Thanks to everyone we fought

Tens hard to figure out, for me personally though the people who shaped me (Be they leaders but mainly friends) as a participant of the pure community are Bob Jib Plode Prateek Ben SPW Nikos Narba1icious Martin

aha you guys take this thing far too seriously

I'll copy and paste my reply from the other topic Haha stating the obvious, judging from your past posts you arn't very inquisitive so i'll tell you what happened. You guys crashed a planned fight between NME and Zenith. NME and Zenith teamed up to repel the crashers (thats you, brainbox). You guys got literally toyed with for about an hour and half. You died 200 times in the space of that hour or so. No ones denying we teamed, if you'd actually watch the videos and look at the pictures its quite clear the two clans are off each other. We asked CP for run ins but you guys didn't want to accept, if you crash fights against clans that have superior organisation, EXPECT TO BE TEAMED ON. You guys shouldn't have dragged it out and should have saved some face, especially the ones that started returning in robes after dying in addy a few times rofl.

Haha stating the obvious, judging from your past posts you arn't very inquisitive so i'll tell you what happened. You guys crashed a planned fight between NME and Zenith. NME and Zenith teamed up to repel the crashers (thats you, brainbox). You guys got literally toyed with for about an hour and half. It was actually ridiculous how stupid you guys looked just standing at mossies only to run into multi and get dropped. You died 200 times in the space of that hour or so. No ones denying we teamed, if you'd actually watch the videos and look at the pictures its quite clear the two clans are off each other. We asked CP for run ins but you guys didn't want to accept, if you crash fights against clans that have superior organisation, EXPECT TO BE TEAMED ON. You guys shouldn't have dragged it out and should have saved some face, especially the ones that started returning in robes after dying in addy a few times rofl. Good job on your trip Zenith, looked fun

Some great fights today, thanks for all involved. Hopefully everyone had fun today

Good job TLP, thanks for the fights. Hope you had a fun Saturday

Just realized it's so ******* pointless to accept 30 (not to mention 35) def into the clan and not allow it on our trips. In a perfect pure world we would go back to accepting 25 def max but thats not happening so :>! I agree, far from perfect haha. Again, nice trip.

Might be a bit late, but how come you guys returned to wearing addy? You were doing great before with only robes + mith. Either way, looks like you did well and had an awesome trip. Looks like the Fi fights were a little one sided haha.

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Really fun, good job guys

It had potential for around a week but the clan leaders handled it all wrong (Reasons I won't get into right now, feel free to PM me for an extended discussion on the 'politics' of these clans) and now the "LPC Scene" will be diluted into nothingness aside from Archaic in a week or two. Its a shame..

Lmao

I expected CP to be more resistant, haha. Was fun fighting clans today, great fun.

I realize its been a bad day in the wilderness for you but no need to get so irate. I'm not trying to stop you "accept(ing) what you want to accept". I was hypothesizing about a few ideas that actually make sense, which you'd understand if your 3rd braincell kicked in and stopped you going absolutely ape-**** (woo) about a simple idea. I'll suggest whatever the hell I like, such as suggesting you re-read your post and proceed to hang yourself after realising what a ******* moron you are. I honestly don't understand what goes someones head when they make a post like that, its almost as though by displaying your autism your going to get special treatment and highlight your point, haha. Your right, I wouldn't do it first because my clan is a 1-10 defence clan, with the majority of us being 44 levels away from 45 and having the self respect to play exactly how we want to play. I'm not suggesting anyone does it. It was merely a post to get some brains turning and possibly provide some intelligent discussion outside of the daily "PURE COMMUNITY DEAD!" topics that I can actually imagine you frequenting every time you lose on Runescape to vent some anger. To conclude ; I could care less about how people run their clans and I could care less about the people in them clans. My post was merely the potential start of a discussion beyond the same old crap.

Pretty much what Celtic said, I really don't understand why clans such as FOE and to a degree EOP don't just begin accepting 45 defence or whatever the "prime" rune armour and related equipment defence level is. Honestly, the ONLY reason I can see for these clans not changing their defence cap to 45 defence is being afraid of failure. It certainly isn't because they don't want to break their 6 year tradition of being pures because if they were bothered about that they wouldn't have begun accepting turmoil in the first place. Now, if FOE (for example) changed their cap to 45 defence, I can guarantee they'd have FAR more fun, contending with HF and the middle echelon of main clans that pull 30/40 and have sub par leadership / organisation, much more opportunities for fun, and a way out of this dying community. Same with EOP, with the numbers EOP pulls and the organisation they have, they'd make a decent impact on the main scene in f2p if they became 45 defence and pushed the majority of the people to get it/recruited other rune pures and mains. Will they do so? No, will they hell. Because that'd mean hard work, effort, and the possibility of failure lingering over their head and we all know that theres some strange stigma surrounding losing in this community despite it having absolutely no impact on a clan if handled correctly. For this very reason its been the same clans around for years, doing the exact same crap. FOE/EOP and possibly TLP should start to accept 45 defence and slowly phase out the 1-20 defence pures from the clan and replace with 30-45 defence accounts, These clans would then begin to form their own division (along with HF pretty much), fighting each other, fighting HF, and fighting the mid level (in terms of power) main clans and pretty much leave pure clans to their own devices. The pure world gets rebooted, newer 1-20 defense clans such as NME, Relapse, Exiled Force et cetera step up and fill the gaps left by the clans such as FOE/TLP/Fi/EOP leaving the pure world to become mains, the pure community is changed indefinitely and has some sort of progression as opposed to the staleness of the last 5 years. Pure clans are new and exciting again and most importantly, the community benefits and thrives once again. The Tank scene actually becomes a scene as opposed to being only consisting of HF and the various ****** tank clan that springs up now and again. The clans such as FOE who stepped up to the main scene as WELL as the tank scene would make a HUGE impact. Clans such as Crimson Raiders and The Rising would offer decent fights. Everyone wins. But then again, its pretty unlikely any of the clans mentioned have the backbone to actually try something different and make a difference. Oh well, I'm sure they'll just keep doing what they've been doing for the last 6 years and sporadically rear their unintelligent heads to moan about it on PW. Everyone who reads it knows it makes sense, but then again probably about 5% who use this forum and read this post can actually understand a concept deeper than "U MAD R[]FL" so I'm not expecting much intelligent discussion to come out of this post

I first joined the pure community in 2004 and used to PK around castle in p2p with people such as Derek, x0x h3ll x0x, Nikos, and a load of other people, as well as F2P with Fubu, Annie Chua, Canadian3Hit. It was then I found out about MM from my friends and joined themin late 04/early 05 with Volcanic Fox, Samot, xsw0rd5m4nzx, I Woolf I, Black Str G40, Shut it f00l et cetera. It was actually a choice between Master of Puppets and Mayhem Makers and for whatever reason I joined MM, which proved to be the right thing to do as it was all very fun. 8 Years later, I'm retired to all extents and purposes, and its a strange thing to look back on all the time spent clanning, haha.

Nice job guys, other than the obvious disadvantages of not being able to tank longer it makes pure fights far more fun and fast paced as well as sets a precedent for other clans to join in. :)

I love you Bobby

My personal favourite was the first time E beat Fi, monumental for myself and our leadership team. In terms of build up excitement and actual war, MM vs TH in 07, and the EOP vs FI in 07 too were really fun to observe

We matched you in plat Talking about the 28vs23, I came late, was all for practice, we were trying out some new callers, you guys played it safe and took the win, grats. The opts look pretty honest to me, if 25 min was asked for then the logical thing to do would be pull 25 if you want it matched. Either way, the "real" prep was matched so there shouldn't be a problem. As for your comment about letting others step up, that's your own leaderships stupid decision rather than us "playing it safe", we use the same set of top caliber callers every event we have because quite simply they're the best and it works. Rather than having your trial callers call in preps that could potentially be important, have them lead minis and small trips first to get a grip of things. Just friendly advice. I'm sure ben will accept a prep when your top callers are on, so if you think that was your downfall, prove yourself right :) Goodjob Ben and the other guys, looks like you enjoyed it as well as dominated. Keep up the ownage.

Nice job, now all you need to do is take the plunge and have the courage to actually take a risk and create a clan rather than a team, as you (directed at whoever runs this gang) know as well as me the oppotunities for having fun in clans is much greater. Winning a fight when you've effectively massed up a group of random people from various clans is all good, but the "woohoo, our family pulled together for this win" factor isn't there. Take this by no means as an attack on what you guys are doing which is really beneficial for pure clans, but more of friendly advice ; effort is rewarded with success :) Either way, nice win and nice pull.

Hence why i absolutely dispise this kid. Brought a legendary top 3 clan to the brink of death. But look at us NOW!! can't hold us back, too much prestige behind the name Fatality. Don't know why you keep posting random garbage about how much prestige Fi holds. Yes, we were all here when you were good... close to 5 years ago. The fact your an "old clan" means absolutely nothing, so please just stop posting about it and reminding everyone how much you guys have messed something almost unmessable up. The other FI guys on PW keep it modest and realise this, understanding how different they are. Which is awesome, people like Skillzy and Konka show that Fi is still a great clan, and as a result, they don't come across as stupid. Unfortunately (and yes, it is unfortunate cos Fi was a powerhouse once upon a time) the fatality of today shouldn't even be compared to the 07 one 95 percent of your posts mention, so please, drop it. As I mentioned earlier in the topic, goodluck to POT. I really can't see it making a massive impact and revolutionising clanning, but either way it'll be interesting to see how it develop s

Nice to see you guys putting the effort in to make the scene fun again, its very respectable. Keep it up

Even though they accept pures? I'm guessing the majority will be pures If they accept 1-45 defence, they will not be able to post recruitment/aftermath topics here. They are not a pure clan, even if they do accept pures, the fact that they are accepting 45 defence is just sickening. But 1-39 defence is alright? Goodluck to POT, will be interesting to see how this effects the community. I hope they do succeed, will be a spanner in the works in relation to how the turmoil clans deal with it.