only thing hazard has in common with havoc is that we both beat the **** out of MM in clw.
was gonna say matched but then realized hazard struggled with that, while we did it unmatched pretty easily so ye.
yea, we actually have trips on the weekends and pull over 20 so preps in clws are the least of our concerns especially with eoc right around the corner
dw doe, every leadership emphasize diff. things and lead our clans in different directions, mayb thats why mm has never closed, and you've closed 3 :3
Yeah, well you guys pulled 3 more than us, and we smacked you pretty easily lol. It wouldn't be hard for us to pull 3 more just gotta pm 3 of our forum guests like you guys do.
You're right, every leadership is different. Since you're sort of new around here, i'll fill you in with a few details.
Havoc has closed twice, not three times.
Havoc v1 was around in early 2009, a few years after you were born. It was lead by Mack, Pat, And Wade.
Havoc v2 was around in mid 2011, it was lead by Loki.
2 completely different leaderships, meaning the reasons for closure was why they closed, not the leadership (lol)
I don't think I should even be responding to you though. You guys have problems competing with probably the worst P2P based clan of all time (Hazard), and you pull 1/4 of what you do to weekends, to preps.
At least clans like FOE, TLP, Fi, and EOP have consistency.
the thing is you don't have a forum base, ur forums are about as dead as eops filled with forum bots, as ive said once, we dont emphasize preps during the week at all unless in our eyes matter, ur clan is irrelevant whether we won or lose to us the outcome is the same
whether u've closed 2 or 3 times, i honestly dont care in the end as i said u are irrelevant and had the eoc not be right around the corner u would of probably closed within a year also i cant help but laugh at the fact ud think we would pull 1/4 of a 138 man pull to a prep against you especially when ur known to consider 18vs18, 20vs20s preps
consistency is also surprisingly something every clan u mentioned lacks as well, with foe pulling 20 to f2p and 55 to p2p whilst tlp pull 40 to preps and 25 to trips and fi pulling 85 one sunday and 50 the next
such a new guy, with so much to learn
Basically the first 2 paragraphs are you saying that you don't care and that I'm right. Yeah, I knew that.
Once again, you pulled 3 more than us.
FOE pulls 40-45 to F2P, and 50-55 in P2P, which is more consistent than 140 to f2p and 100 to p2p.
TLP pulls about 30 to everything now, whether it be a f2p trip, or a p2p prep.
Fi has pulled 70-80 for the past 3 months. Yeah they hit a rocky spot because their members got bored because no clan would fight them because they smacked the **** out of everybody. Going from 80 to 55 is more consistent than going from 50 to 140.
Once again, maybe you should stop focusing on other clans and focus on your own. Work on making your way up the food chain. Start with attempting to beat Hazard, as they seem to be better than you. Maybe one day you lil critters can work your way up and defeat the champs ;)
you are telling mm to work their way up the food chain l0l00l0l0l00l0l0l0l
son u pk in one server, pull 20 to preps and have closed twice
no more needs to be said
u lost to 3 1 server clans this week
no more needs to be said
which we prep'd in their server
lmfa0 by far the most idiotic comment out of them all, i could make a collage out of all ur posts tbh