Murder

[Acid-Sun]

Why is it legal for members of the military to kill another human being?

[ydoC]

Because they're doing it to defend innocent civilians from dying back home

[Acid-Sun]

Even if the person they are killing is an innocent civilian themselves?

[Azrael]

Even if the person they are killing is an innocent civilian themselves?

If a soldier were to go around killing random people, he would be arrested. I remember a few years ago one was on trial for shooting two men who he had captured (they started talking to each other then walked at him). Not sure how that went.

[Piers]

Let's just say our governments are immoral assholes.

[Hugh]

^

 

is probably the nicest possible way you could put it

[Anthoni]

Why post something like this? I don't think as a country, you'd get very far if you didn't have an army that didn't kill people.

[Anthoni]

Plus, there is a difference between murder and serving your country.

[AndyIbeat]

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[Num Nums]

Because it is their job. It is as simple as that and not more to it. Plus society would

be a wreck if we were legally allowed to murder individuals. This whole world would

then be a third world country were you'd be scared of living eveyday.

[Hugh]

I think what he was getting at was that innocent people do die at the hands of soldiers. Perhaps through no fault of their own, just following orders. Governments are the ones with blood on their hands.

[Acid-Sun]

I think what he was getting at was that innocent people do die at the hands of soldiers. Perhaps through no fault of their own, just following orders. Governments are the ones with blood on their hands.

 

Thank you.

 

For the ones arguing that innocent people rarely die, did everyone forget about the My Lai Massacre in Vietnam?

 

Also I posted this because I can, this is the debates forum and there should be no censorship.

[OldPlums]

because they cant kill for sake of it, only under commands lol

[Rbh]

They do what there told to do.

[Acid-Sun]

They just as the Nazi commanders slaying Jews were told to do it, but does that make it any more right?

[Saint Andrew]

Because they're doing it to defend innocent civilians from dying back home

 

Couldn't have put in better myself.

[Cronic Ko]

Seems like you are trying to make out that our military + government go around just wakin off innocent people.

 

None of us really know anything about what it is like to be in the position of someone in our government. They don't do what they do for ***** and giggles, they do it because it is necesary and just because you might not always agree or understand doesnt mean they are immoral assholes.

[Acid-Sun]

Seems like you are trying to make out that our military + government go around just wakin off innocent people.

 

None of us really know anything about what it is like to be in the position of someone in our government. They don't do what they do for ***** and giggles, they do it because it is necesary and just because you might not always agree or understand doesnt mean they are immoral assholes.

 

Who said they are immoral assholes? I asked if someone is in the military why are they able to kill and get away with it?

 

Do you see any reason for the recent internet censorship bill? Isn't there something called freedom of speech/press?

 

That bill sounds very moral to me, lets be like China and make it so the people are not able to get the information they should be able to.

[Nippon]

Why is it legal for members of the military to kill another human being?

 

I think you are looking at it the wrong way. You should ask: why is it illegal to commit homicide under normal circumstances in our society?

 

In a "natural state" of society without the violence machinery(law, police, military) that prevents us from doing whatever we choose to, the only thing that prevents one from taking another persons life is conscience or the lack of power or will to do so. There is nothing inherently wrong or right about murder, no more so than in rape, plunder or other things that people do to each other in a truly free society, bellum omnium contra omnes.

 

Most human societies have altered this natural state of affairs by sacrificing some of their rights as free men in exchange for security for everyone. That is why we have law, police and the military.

 

Now consider your question: Why is it legal for members of the military to kill another human being? Because we, as a civil society, give them the legal right to do so.

[Cronic Ko]

Seems like you are trying to make out that our military + government go around just wakin off innocent people.

 

None of us really know anything about what it is like to be in the position of someone in our government. They don't do what they do for ***** and giggles, they do it because it is necesary and just because you might not always agree or understand doesnt mean they are immoral assholes.

 

Who said they are immoral assholes? I asked if someone is in the military why are they able to kill and get away with it?

 

Do you see any reason for the recent internet censorship bill? Isn't there something called freedom of speech/press?

 

That bill sounds very moral to me, lets be like China and make it so the people are not able to get the information they should be able to.

First of all, what does that have to do with this topic??

Second of all, the bill, which would allow the government to take measures to prevent access to websites accused of hosting any material that infringes on copyrights, no i don't see a problem with it.

Third of all, we have freedom of speach only to some extent and that bill doesn't look like it will affect it at all.

[Pur3_Kide]

Weird but interesting question.

[+Karl]

Because they're defending their country.

 

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

[Ahd f t w]

lol

[Acid-Sun]

Why is it legal for members of the military to kill another human being?

 

I think you are looking at it the wrong way. You should ask: why is it illegal to commit homicide under normal circumstances in our society?

 

In a "natural state" of society without the violence machinery(law, police, military) that prevents us from doing whatever we choose to, the only thing that prevents one from taking another persons life is conscience or the lack of power or will to do so. There is nothing inherently wrong or right about murder, no more so than in rape, plunder or other things that people do to each other in a truly free society, bellum omnium contra omnes.

 

Most human societies have altered this natural state of affairs by sacrificing some of their rights as free men in exchange for security for everyone. That is why we have law, police and the military.

 

Now consider your question: Why is it legal for members of the military to kill another human being? Because we, as a civil society, give them the legal right to do so.

 

Thank you, you've got the golden answer.

[Unknown]

Defending their country. Not like most of them enjoy it, it's their job.