I have an idea

[Arrow]

Rather then ***** about what is pure, and what is not. How about not make topics with poll's about 30 def being pure or not. Instead of comparing your defense level averages as if it means something. Why don't you guys spend that time pming other clan leaders for preps?

 

Idk if you have thought this one out, but the 30 defer's in this community are 1 step away from being Rune Pures. Why not just accept it? Think about it this way. Anyone who is 35 defence right now is about 15k defence xp off being a rune pure. So all it would take is 1 update from Jagex, with some quests similar to turmoil that changes the pking scene.

 

I'll list the numbers for you:

 

FOE - 30 people with 30 defense or higher.

EOP - 48 People with 30 defense or higher.

Fatality - 30 people with 30 defense or higher.

NPO - 30 people with 30 defense or higher.

TLP - Couldn't find their ML but im assuming its 20-30 people.

 

Those are the names that came to mind, if I forgot your clan my bad.

 

So assuming my estimate on TLP is correct, and basically only counting the "Pure clanning" members who have 30-35 defense pures your looking at 168 people that in this doom day scenario of Jagex releasing a future update that would give some sort of defense xp would either have to turn Rune Pure, or would be so close to being a rune pure 35-39 defense, that its absolutely silly to not just take the leap.

 

To those that are hardcore about being 1 defence. I get it. Its not my thing but I respect you 100% for wanting to stay as close to the roots of being pure as possible. Honestly its pretty darn admirable because that account use to be over powered, and now a days its just not at a higher combat level. So either for aesthetic purposes, or the challenge your doing your thing and thats fine with me.

 

My question to all of you is this however. Why flame? Why not be more welcoming? The way I see it, some of you guys know I lead a pure - rune pure team/group of friends. We have a nice little community, we enjoy doing our thing. We don't consider ourselves a pure clan or team, even though we do accept pures 1-30 def and our requirements are not restricting at all. You can be in any existing team or clan and still join. Yet when I went to post a topic of us smashing POT who granted by majority all of you guys dislike; it was locked, deleted, and closed in under a minute. By allowing it to be posted, viewed, and replied on I can share my community with yours, which if I am not mistaken should be the purpose of this site.

 

Let the people who are LPC's do what they like and if your a HPC don't be a **** and expect them to fight, or flame bait. Why would they want to? They are doing their thing let em be.

 

Honestly I would love to have a few people who are keen on permantly staying 1 defense, that don't care if we challenge a pure clan, or a RSC main clan to a fight or prep, but I find it hard to take this whole thing seriously if your going to be spending more time arguing about what other people should do, and not do.

 

Regardless flame away, I saw the RSC Main Community go to **** because of petty ********. Clans hacking clans ML's, Clans hacking clan's forums, clans crashing constantly instead of fighting, p2p dieing out and clans going to f2p, clans outragging clans for a RSC win.

 

You guys can go down that same path if you wish. But I'm going to just have fun with my friends and I welcome anyone else who wants to join me on that to idle in #goats and introduce yourselves.

 

 

[Booos]

Pure clanning-Changes over time. Adapt or die, whether the old schoolers like it or not. 100% agree with this, Good topic Arrow.

[wadda]

good topic :D

[Sick]

Pure clanning-Changes over time. Adapt or die, whether the old schoolers like it or not. 100% agree with this, Good topic Arrow.

This, although 40 def probably won't happen but you never know.

 

Lots of ppl gonna be made over this.

 

 

 

[Ahd f t w]

i only saw 1 clan with 44 defence but not ganna name it , nice topic also.

[AndyIbeat]

Yet when I went to post a topic of us smashing POT who granted by majority all of you guys dislike; it was locked, deleted, and closed in under a minute. By allowing it to be posted, viewed, and replied on I can share my community with yours, which if I am not mistaken should be the purpose of this site.

 

It's just the mods opinion on it, they allow aftermath topics for pure clans/teams, that was the reason for creating the site, purewarfare.

 

I do agree with your defence beliefs though, although I don't play this game anymore, what I am liking is the opinion a lot of these LPC clans take on it, it seems they are pretty much isolating themselves from the mainstream "pure" clans we have today.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if this year certain clans started accepting 40, and although when I played I was in Enemy and supported 1 defence, I will welcome it, heh, it wouldn't be considered pure anymore.

 

 

Expect a lot of flame on this topic btw, kids willl be kids ;)

 

 

[AAoKruQ]

1 defence for life.

[Arrow]

Yet when I went to post a topic of us smashing POT who granted by majority all of you guys dislike; it was locked, deleted, and closed in under a minute. By allowing it to be posted, viewed, and replied on I can share my community with yours, which if I am not mistaken should be the purpose of this site.

 

It's just the mods opinion on it, they allow aftermath topics for pure clans/teams, that was the reason for creating the site, purewarfare.

 

I do agree with your defence beliefs though, although I don't play this game anymore, what I am liking is the opinion a lot of these LPC clans take on it, it seems they are pretty much isolating themselves from the mainstream "pure" clans we have today.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if this year certain clans started accepting 40, and although when I played I was in Enemy and supported 1 defence, I will welcome it, heh, it wouldn't be considered pure anymore.

 

 

Expect a lot of flame on this topic btw, kids willl be kids ;)

 

The motto is "Home of the Defenceless" again I completely agree and recognize with anyone that today's definition of pure is skewed from what it should be, but by blocking an effort to have an open community, you close it off, rather then expand it.

 

This whole LPC push is great. The time it takes to make an account ready to join an LPC clan is minimal and their community could benefit from interacting with ours. After all if what they are doing is truly fun, it would attract people from communities like the one we have created that have members with minimal pure clanning exposure.

 

At the end of the day I agree with Mod's decision to not let HF boast because of Ranged/Maged Tanks. I also agree with any Mod's decision to not let a clan or team post because of something that they do that detracts from the community aka hacking etc, but a small group of friends trying to have fun and expand our community without detracting from it. I see no reason or logic here.

 

Edit: Personally to enhance this community I think it would be prudent to have seperate clanning sections, similar to how there is currently separate recruiting sections. Clans/teams that are 30 defense + turmoil should post in their own warring sections, and LPC's have their own as well. That way we can foster growth in the LPC community and advance and adapt if neccessary in the HPC catagory without flame and bull.

[xtacy]

I like your ideology for your team it should be how the current MPC and HPC work, you have pures and mains but your not a pure team.

 

My only problem is when you start trying to justify having 30 defence as pure, no-one is trying to challenge your right to be a clan, theres nothing stoping you from being a clan, but leave the pure community to the pures.

[konka]

you can sit here and say 35 def isn't pure, but neither is 40/45 and realistically i can't see the pure community accepting rune into it's battles in any near future.

 

 

 

@edit: stop trying to get permission to post aftermath topics, you have RUNE pures in your team and regardless of how many PURES are in it.. you accept rune therefore; you will never be allowed to post aftermath topics. get over it lol post it on zybez

[Arrow]

I like your ideology for your team it should be how the current MPC and HPC work, you have pures and mains but your not a pure team.

 

My only problem is when you start trying to justify having 30 defence as pure, no-one is trying to challenge your right to be a clan, theres nothing stoping you from being a clan, but leave the pure community to the pures.

 

But what happens when the dooms day scenario happens and major HPC clans all start allowing higher defence. Does Purewarfare then take the stance that the big dog clans of old can no longer post? If so why? Why not adapt to what the players of 2012 or whatever year it may be when or if this happens?

 

Like I said the goal at the end of this should be to expand YOUR community, not close it off. Whether its MM vs FOE, or Fatality vs Wicked Fury (main clan they prepped) there is good argument to be made that WF should be able to post because a pure clan was involved in the fight.

 

Again I'm not here to flame. A Purge of defence will either happen, or it wont.. but I don't think a purge is neccessary.

[Arrow]

you can sit here and say 35 def isn't pure, but neither is 40/45 and realistically i can't see the pure community accepting rune into it's battles in any near future.

 

 

 

@edit: stop trying to get permission to post aftermath topics, you have RUNE pures in your team and regardless of how many PURES are in it.. you accept rune therefore; you will never be allowed to post aftermath topics. get over it lol post it on zybez

 

so you admit that 35 def is not pure, but yet you dont advocate for Fatality to not be allowed to post on Pure warfare?

 

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Konka man I love mini'ing fatality you guys are always good sports, always put up a good fight, and always keep it clean.

 

Logic always wins however. If you don't think 35 defence is pure, and your clan aka Fatality has 17 members with it, then you can't criticize someone for allowing 5 extra levels if you feel both account types do not meet the requirements of this community.

 

EDIT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT CLEAR. I HAVE NO BEEF WITH ANY PURE CLAN. Even if you think I am a complete idiot, I have 0 problems with anyone. This was merely to point out flawed logic.

[Viesturs]

The problem with all these 30 defence topics is that they fantasise about some perfect wonderland where everyone accepts everything and live happily and compete nicely.

 

I pretty much share your views on the topic, but this wonderland will not come about as long as clans don't start cooperating and looking at the community as a whole and not just themselves and that's something I just don't see happening.

 

For all I care people could start accepting 99 defence in their clans, but what I'd like to see is them setting a certain set of rules with the other clan leaders that all can agree to, which would eliminate the abuse of this gigantic advantage.

[xtacy]

I like your ideology for your team it should be how the current MPC and HPC work, you have pures and mains but your not a pure team.

 

My only problem is when you start trying to justify having 30 defence as pure, no-one is trying to challenge your right to be a clan, theres nothing stoping you from being a clan, but leave the pure community to the pures.

 

But what happens when the dooms day scenario happens and major HPC clans all start allowing higher defence. Does Purewarfare then take the stance that the big dog clans of old can no longer post? If so why? Why not adapt to what the players of 2012 or whatever year it may be when or if this happens?

 

Like I said the goal at the end of this should be to expand YOUR community, not close it off. Whether its MM vs FOE, or Fatality vs Wicked Fury (main clan they prepped) there is good argument to be made that WF should be able to post because a pure clan was involved in the fight.

 

Again I'm not here to flame. A Purge of defence will either happen, or it wont.. but I don't think a purge is neccessary.

 

Simple answer to why we shouldnt adapt, when you started geting 95 prayer and 30+ defence you left the everyday pure account behind, it would be a good day when you could join a high req pure clan and able to have fights in lvl 15 wild and attack everyone.

 

I just feel sorry for the real pures that stay pure and have to put up with fighting 100s week in week out and mains all because people want to spec 400s.

 

I couldnt care less about turm clans posting here, just stop calling yourself pure, you dont even have to be a 'rune pure' call em turm clans but dont call em pure. Im sure 90% of the topics would clear up as soon as you stop saying your pure and let actual clans take up the mantle of being MPC and HPC in peace. As of right now no propper pure clan entering HPC for the first time would have any kind of a hope, MM is only there because thats what they do as much as I despise the people and their attitude they are pures.

[Hulkin]

the only people trying to change the community are those ones who have recently joined, who cares

[Hulkin]

Sorry i should have made a better response. But yeah, I agree with you.

 

The whole LPC scene was a reason for clans to just be out in the middle of the day and we would run into them, Already clans have rivalrys and are hacking each other, so it seems.

 

I like being 1-10 defence because I actually like to go pking in the wild 1v1.

[Arrow]

Sorry i should have made a better response. But yeah, I agree with you.

 

The whole LPC scene was a reason for clans to just be out in the middle of the day and we would run into them, Already clans have rivalrys and are hacking each other, so it seems.

 

I like being 1-10 defence because I actually like to go pking in the wild 1v1.

 

Yeah like I said I am not trying to change your community. In fact given I had the time I would consider making a baby pure to check LPC's out. I would honestly like to see LPC's flourish into what is considered the dominant "pure" clans, and have the current HPC's be a bit more realistic and less hypocritical. BOTH of which should be allowed to post on this site, and share their communities with each other.

[Pieter]

30 def isnt pure, nor is 20 or 10 but who cares what is pure and what is not, 30 defence is accepted as ''pure'' nowadays and even 40 defence to many people

[bookabooka55]

Sorry bro you need 39 defence to post topics here, 40 defence isnt pure.

 

 

[Father Justin]

The problem with all these 30 defence topics is that they fantasise about some perfect wonderland where everyone accepts everything and live happily and compete nicely.

 

I pretty much share your views on the topic, but this wonderland will not come about as long as clans don't start cooperating and looking at the community as a whole and not just themselves and that's something I just don't see happening.

 

For all I care people could start accepting 99 defence in their clans, but what I'd like to see is them setting a certain set of rules with the other clan leaders that all can agree to, which would eliminate the abuse of this gigantic advantage.

Bravo Bravo, well spoken Viesturs.

 

100% Agreed

[Arrow]

haha ^

[Azrael]

Your topic wasn't hidden because you weren't pures, it was hidden because you allow rune. I don't believe anything over 4 defence is pure, but around a year ago it was stated if you accept rune, you can not post aftermath topics. You can argue that there are clans that have members with 1 level lower, but 40 is what was chosen. Until that changes, I will sadly continue to hide your topics.

[`Peter]

**** gettin srss

 

who cares the clans that refuse to get addy will close eventually and quit since they wont be able to compete, problem solved just wait it out

[Celtic]

Can i ask you why You think 1 def is ****? You say its not powerful?

My account is maxed 10 defence(yeah full black). with 99hp meaning im 2 cmbs over 1 def, and i could be just as offensive with 79hp meaning i'm 7 cmbs over my peak level at 91 cmb and i still contend vs level 95s. I dump on these 30 def accounts my level, and rune pures aren't that much a problem in edgeville. I'm am most certainly the most dominant account in hybridding for my level.

Now 30 defense is absolutely useless. They cant pk in edgeville because they get wrecked by all the defensive bonuses, vengeance, not to mention that the rune pures hit higher than them. And in hybridding they just get stomped. Think about it(you on a rp 6 str levels lower or 3 str 3 hp lower vs u on a 30 def acc) You'd know you'd stomped the **** out of the 30def account.

The reason there is 30 defense in the community is because they were bad pkers who were so bad at pking, they got 11 combat levels higher to compete against their former self. Such cowardness.

[Hulkin]

Can i ask you why You think 1 def is ****? You say its not powerful?

My account is maxed 10 defence(yeah full black). with 99hp meaning im 2 cmbs over 1 def, and i could be just as offensive with 79hp meaning i'm 7 cmbs over my peak level at 91 cmb and i still contend vs level 95s. I dump on these 30 def accounts my level, and rune pures aren't that much a problem in edgeville. I'm am most certainly the most dominant account in hybridding for my level.

Now 30 defense is absolutely useless. They cant pk in edgeville because they get wrecked by all the defensive bonuses, vengeance, not to mention that the rune pures hit higher than them. And in hybridding they just get stomped. Think about it(you on a rp 6 str levels lower or 3 str 3 hp lower vs u on a 30 def acc) You'd know you'd stomped the **** out of the 30def account.

The reason there is 30 defense in the community is because they were bad pkers who were so bad at pking, they got 11 combat levels higher to compete against their former self. Such cowardness.