Top 7 Things That Ruined the Pure Community

[Hockey-Mom]

Hey guys I am making this topic to express my views on what caused/is causing the current downill in the pure community. Take it or leave it these are the things I feel most devastated the Pure Community. They are in order of best-->worst

 

7:- Removal of Wilderness December 2007. Yes this is a given but it must be noted. Prior to this update, people would literally make a level 3, xfer it some gold and begin pking/looing from level 3 in F2P Varrock. This was a great time of prosperous pures and it was a thing everyone was doing and was interested in. I myself began my pure after constantly getting raped by them and being in awe of their great stats at low combats.

 

6:-Nerfed Loots in PvP and BH worlds. In these worlds, it was very common to down someone with a significant risk and get garbage loot. This made PKing horrible money, and was not a viable way to make ends. This led people to skill for their money, hence, stranding them away from the wilderness and PvP for money.

 

5:-Community. As many veterans (2005-2006) of the golden age of runescape started to quit, a new breed of dumb, immature, and trolling kids started to emerge into the wild. People no longer PKed for the thrill of killing someone for their things,but rather to risk as minimum as possible to get kills and rag/annoy others of honour/significant risk out of the wild.

 

4:- Inactivity of clans in the wilderness/ 2011 clan wars. Clan wars is probably the worst thing possible that has affected the wild. Why? Because it allowed players, for the first time, to be able to wear whatever gear they wanted, with the best possible bonuses and to get a kick out of PvP at the same time. The new 2011 clan wars even featured a new system of PvP where you could kill people for their things, with an options featured that actually stripped away the risk and challenge of the wilderness.

 

3:Return of the "Old" wilderness. Now this one may seem controversial and hypocritical but the truth is, with the Old wilderness back, combined with a new garbage community consisting of RWTing 10-12 year olds and a spread out Wilderness system, the wild has come to die since it was first reintroduced. When it was first introduced in February, 2011, it was great and many people expected a revival of the game, but the PvP system that came soon began to crumble. What people don't realize is that with the introduction to the new wild, many things such as designated PK worlds, Risk Requirements, and Populated City areas were diminished with the Old Wild system coming back. Now kids can 1 item with ags/monkrobes/turm and strength amulet and still get the same loot a high risker can get. This, in my opinion, has created a great PvP imbalance being that now players realize they can risk garbage and rag and still get significant loot.

 

5:Clans becoming competitiveness on these forums. It is gamer's nature to be competitive to another clan. But what is not needed is the excess flame, DDOSING, hacking, and flaming of other clans just to prove that they are stronger, won a midweek/weekend run in, or to get back at a clan for beating them. We must remember that this is just a game and although clans may be competitive, they should remain truthful to the event, and not take ANY action outside of the game to affect another

player.

 

2:Banning Mayhem Makers from these boards. I am not in MM or have ever been. However, I know that they are one of the most stable, prestigious, and oldest clans around to this day. First started in early 2004, This clan has thrived and through better or worse, kept true to the legendary idea of a Pure, never extending their defense cap since first entering the world of clanning. They excel in both P2P and F2P Servers thanks to their core ranks, member base, and of course, high pulls. But before people begin to say I am sucking them off, let me address why I think they shouldnt have been banned. I realize that they crashed the RvB F2P Fullouts after opposing both Red and Blue sides being that EoP and FOE were on separate sides. (They are rivals with both) and can address thier point of view and can determine that in all fairness they were only looking for a challenge. They were ~80 PURES with MONK ROBES attack the RvB, which consisted of over 10+ clans. If there was a big concern with them "crashing" when RvB combined had upwards of 300OPTS, you should've just cleared them and gave them the challenge they earned for. Anyone who knows MMs background knows that they are currently the largest role models for new pures 1-20 defense. They are personally an inspiration and should be unbanned from these forums because if there is anyone that can save the dying defintion of pure, it is them

 

1: Introduction of Turmoil. Now Im not going to drag this on as I know there are many 30 def topics out there, too many to name so let me just cut to the chase. Turmoil has plagued this community ever since soon after it was introduced. I'll be honest, at first, it wasn't so bad as clans were extremely strict about the 29-30Defense cap and not many people had/could afford turmoil in the BH era. Nowadays, one can just RWT about 80-100m, buy 95 Prayer, and quest up their defense to become a turmoil pure. As clans have gotten more sleazy on the defense reqs and allowed adamant on F2P trips, which was "never acceptable" in the first clans to accept turmoil, the community is now being plagued with defense, defeating the purpose of a pure. It is getting worse clan by clan, clans accepting addy on f2p trips and clans that encourage their members to get unquested defense levels. It is truely devastating. Now here is the great answer to the great "What are we supposed to do about it question?". Obviously, a clan isnt expected to boot all of their 31+ defense member so here is my suggestion. CAP YOUR DEFENSE LEVELS AT 30 WITH TURMOIL, SIMPLE. NOT ANY HIGHER, NOT UNQUESTED, THE WAY IT WAS IN ITS PRELIMINARY INTRODUCTION. DONT ALLOW ADDY ON F2P TRIPS. This is the only solution to all you 30+ Defense clans.

 

 

 

Thanks for reading!

Please keep posts respectable!

I respect your opinion just as much as you respect mine!

[Xpnkrockemox]

I agree with most of it.

 

You forgot to mention tho, about clan wars. Clan wars actually caused alot of this competition, and during this time def lvls were raised and more accepted. Minis, preps were really all clans could do at the time when there was no wildy. So yea this was a big problem. Every mini became vital to the clan worlds survival it seemed.

[Flat-Feet]

I agree 100%

[N54]

I Feel most of this is correct but with the wild being more spread out no more designated worlds. We can finally have fights without being sniped.

[beware-10z]

agreed.

[Ben√]

I Feel most of this is correct but with the wild being more spread out no more designated worlds. We can finally have fights without being sniped.

 

I agree to an extent but as he stated in the topic, people have become more competitive. Clans get more of a thrill in fighting other clans than they do pking random massers(which is perfectly acceptable).

 

This in turns leads to spies/leaks being placed in clans which makes the fact there are more worlds redundant. You could even argue that back in the PvP era, people didn't need spies- they used scouts to find clans (obviously some used spies but it wasn't 100% needed like today). Clans took longer to find as scouts would run the common spots looking for other clans as opposed to getting an instant pm through IRC with an exact world, location and amount of people. This meant that as scouts were looking for clans, fights could actually take place with less risk of being crashed.

[Iron-Goat]

Pking went to **** when the dark bow was released... it was tolerable, but from there on you knew over powered weapons would be released

[Buky]

i wish jagex could get rid of clan wars

[E L U M]

About #2. MM took crashing to a whole new level. They put on the 2 different team capes that each side were using and would bs the members from each side. Clearing them wasn't as simple as you think it was. What I don't get is how a clan like CP who bs'd the blue team in the beginning didn't get punished at all (not just saying that cause I'm in nme).

 

Completely agree with the #5's though. Like I've said before, the best times I had on rs were on my pure in 04-05.

 

I can't really comment on the things that took place after they removed the wild in 07 because I stopped using my pure up until last summer.

[Su lc l De]

I agree with all but #2. MM were warned not to crash, it was their choice not to participate, and they new there would be a punishment if they did crash. Its not like they cared about purewarfare at that point anyway. The community was already ruined long before this had taken place anyway. (Not that I dislike MM, I actually have alot of respect for them, aside from their attitude towards other clans, but still, props to them for not accepting turmoil, its quite amazing that they have been competing with the other top clans who accept turmoil, and have held down a f2p dominance for.. who knows how long?)

 

I can sum the reason why our community has went to **** up in a few words:Lack of respect and maturity, not just as members in a clan, but also the leaders of clans. The game evolves, so do we. But our change in attitude is what has really ruined the community.

[`Pure]

The only reason you need is clans are giant ******* now.

 

And you're ban evading so bye.

[Pissant]

Agreed

[aTommy]

You got `pure'd

 

I agree with all with the exception of #5. MM isn't the god of pure clanning, they aren't really that great of a clan once you break down (this goes for every single clan). They crashed RVB after being told specificly not to, told the consiquences and still did it anyways thinking they can do whatever the **** they want because they are "the last pure clan". Banning them caused little harm to the community and i feel that if you really think that is a major reason the PC sucks you should rethink your standards of destruction.

[Swelly]

I dont agree with clan wars killing the wilderness but most everything else I do.

 

I've always felt clan wars should be used more often for dangerous fights. No more main crashers, no more logging on other accounts with maul and turmoil and black d hide.

 

back to the purple portal though - Why don't clans fight dangerous in there more often? We used to do that in Havoc sometimes and there MIGHT of been 1-2 raggers. I dont know, i just recently got back to pure clanning im not here to act like I know the solution. In TLP/Havoc I remember doing quite a few purple portal fights which were pretty fun.

 

I've been out of the pure community for a few months though, until recently, so what would i know.

[`kG]

overpowered weapons, ragging, botting mostly

[Pepe]

I Feel most of this is correct but with the wild being more spread out no more designated worlds. We can finally have fights without being sniped.

That's completely false lol

[Pissant]

I believe one of our leaders said when were crashing Red vs Blue was that we were defending the defenseless from the world of addy known as Pure Warfare who claim to be home of the defenseless but from first glance of the battlefield all you can see was addy. We were targeting anyone with addy and we passed with flying colors. So inspiring, definitely a day to remember. :wub:

[AgeEyeraqi]

i totaly agree with everything you are saying man, awsome topic.

[Fayth]

I feel like OP should learn to count

 

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[Levi]

Most of the clans that began to slump ruined it.

[Nate-]

I believe one of our leaders said when were crashing Red vs Blue was that we were defending the defenseless from the world of addy known as Pure Warfare who claim to be home of the defenseless but from first glance of the battlefield all you can see was addy. We were targeting anyone with addy and we passed with flying colors. So inspiring, definitely a day to remember. :wub:

l0l i laughed

[Born2Thieve]

You forgot that gay hybrid **** that brought NH

[Nara]

Hit some good points

[Keith]

User had been warned for this post on OP.

 

That right there is a reason in itself.

[Ducky]

You forgot that gay hybrid **** that brought NH

 

hybridding is a style of pking, it can be NH & honour too