badger shares some words of wisdom with his fellow PURES

[badger]

hello friends my name is badger and I am badger.

i have been here since 2006. some of you may be older

some of you may be newer

generally, I consider myself to be wise about the workings of our fun little community in the least conceited way possible, however i am a very conceited person since this is the internet and I can act how I want.

 

this is just some stuff that I think you all should know and I wouldn't be surprised if the older, more mature, or intelligent members of the community would agree with me. i've matured as this community grew, and I watched you all shrivel up like benjamin buttons nuts.

 

 

you all whine/complain about problems, but nothing is being done. i think the only solution to helping out community is by following some simple steps, to help you all out:

 

1. try NOT to use spies as much. the reason none of you have fun at trips is because now every saturday is a 2 hour **** fest of crashing and hitting each other on login. believe it or not, it wasn't always like this. I know its alot to ask you guys, but try using SCOUTS instead of spies/leaks. it makes your fights more fun, it makes them mean more, and you might even actually have a clan PKing trip instead of saturday trips with the intensity of a rather large lungful of nitrous oxide.

 

2. mods, DISALLOW clans associated with hacking and or ddosing. i know it's biased, but so was banning MM. i know your sick of hearing it, but you guys do have the ability to steer this community towards a positive slope. if there is definitive proof of hacking or ddosing, remove that person, and if the clan they represent doesn't remove them, remove that ******* clan. it takes a willingness to improve to start the improvement, you guys are too content saying everyone does it. just because everyone does it doesn't mean it's okay(unless it's drugs)

 

3. stop bitching about adamant unless youre gonna stop using adamant. the only clan allowed the whine about adamant is MM but MM isn't even real pures because they use mith. if you want to stop seeing addy and having 50 minute return fights, however, than stop using it yourself ******* morons.

 

4. stop botting and paying people to do **** for you. part of the fun of old pure clans was having an account to be PROUD of, a cash pile to be PROUD of, and a clan to be PROUD of. anyone can pay a chinese dude 50 bucks to get him a firecape and 80 dungeoneering, but if you do that **** yourself you increase the value of your account to yourself. an MMORPG is about the ******* fun you get out of achieving cool **** on your own, not paying people to do it for you so you can be instantly good. Those 2 hit ko's would be alot more satisfying if you didn't pay some ******** to get you your chaotic maul.

 

 

i know you all won't listen. I accept that. i'm pretty sure there's nothing anyone can do to stop the downward spiral of this community in general. you guys have lost the ability to have ethics, the ability to have fun, and the ability to stop being hypocrites. and your downward spiral will continue until you realize that flaming each other all week long, setting up botnets to take down each others TS's, and having the same retarded saturday trip every week just isn't fun.

 

those of you who are actually having fun right now I tip my hat to you, because you managed to find a gold chain in a pile of dogshit.

 

 

i'd apreciate it if my post wasn't just deleted like all my others, and I will save this post and REPOST it unless I get a reason for it's closure, and an explanation as to what I can change to make it acceptable. I think it's iportant that the community knows that there are actually things they can do to help themselves out.

[Furious]

I'd prefer to consolidate topics like this into one. However I won't because it does have... somewhat of it's own message to it. And I understand that you simply want to be heard.

 

I'll leave this open for discussion for now.

[Failed Again]

love you

[Flat-Feet]

Where were you when the community was going down? <3

[badger]

Where were you when the community was going down? <3

making posts like this. i'm sure, somewhere in pure warfares trash bin, there are topics like this by me dating back 3 years.

 

no one listens to outspoken oldfags. take the classic example of `rage. he probably could have stopped this if people listened to him, back in da day

 

[Morris]

Where were you when the community was going down? <3

 

[Inu]

Badger Badger Badger Badger Muffin Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger

[-Charlie-]

my ***** =]

 

[JaKeyy]

badger 4 pres

[Derrick]

2. mods, DISALLOW clans associated with hacking and or ddosing. i know it's biased, but so was banning MM. i know your sick of hearing it, but you guys do have the ability to steer this community towards a positive slope. if there is definitive proof of hacking or ddosing, remove that person, and if the clan they represent doesn't remove them, remove that ******* clan. it takes a willingness to improve to start the improvement, you guys are too content saying everyone does it. just because everyone does it doesn't mean it's okay(unless it's drugs)

 

We remove the clans that ddos/hack. They continue to hack/ddos then what?? Thats what I dont get when people tell us to do that all the time

[4skinhero]

This is Badger country

[Le3t]

<3 badger

[`Peter]

Thank you for your enlightened opinion

[Sup im James]

Hear hear

[Bwas]

Badger Badger Badger Badger Muffin Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger

 

[Azrael]

Badger Badger Badger Badger Muffin Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger

 

[Davld]

sorry

 

1. scouts only worked in bh worlds, there were 4-6 worlds per server. Also the wilderness is dead, because the game is dead. The only people in the wilderness are in clans. The only real solution to spies/leaks would be pming each other for run-ins, but that's hard to do when the latter is ddosing your teamspeak server.

 

2. Disallow clans that don't BOOT hackers/ddosers/etc. you don't punish the father for the son's crimes.

 

3. Adamant has reached it's final immovable place when it could have been stopped about 4 years ago.

 

4. We're all older, Runescape has past its prime and is now awaiting its death bed. The game isn't fun. That's also not realistic now because the only people really still here for the clanning are basically maxed and have every type of chaotic.

[Skillzy]

I really wish clan leaders would listen. Ultimately, it's up to them.

 

Sadly, I highly doubt change will occur.

[-Toxine-]

A whole new world

A new fantastic point of view

No one to tell us no

Or where to go

Or say we're only dreaming

 

Thank you so much Badger for blessing me with your wisdom and insight. I have seen the pure community from only a biased focal point , but you sir have opened my eyes!

 

A whole new world!

[Azrael]

sorry

 

1. scouts only worked in bh worlds, there were 4-6 worlds per server. Also the wilderness is dead, because the game is dead. The only people in the wilderness are in clans. The only real solution to spies/leaks would be pming each other for run-ins, but that's hard to do when the latter is ddosing your teamspeak server.

 

2. Disallow clans that don't BOOT hackers/ddosers/etc. you don't punish the father for the son's crimes.

 

3. Adamant has reached it's final immovable place when it could have been stopped about 4 years ago.

 

4. We're all older, Runescape has past its prime and is now awaiting its death bed. The game isn't fun. That's also not realistic now because the only people really still here for the clanning are basically maxed and have every type of chaotic.

Pretty much this, besides #2.

[Nippon]

I'm having fun ^_^

 

1. Nah. Scouting doesn't work if you intend on fighting other pure clans. What might be worth considering is fighting the other clans that this runescape has to offer. I've always enjoyed killing mains more than pures.

 

2. Yes

 

3. Yea

 

4. Well, yeah, in a world of sunshine, rainbows and lollipops.

[badger]

sorry

 

1. scouts only worked in bh worlds, there were 4-6 worlds per server. Also the wilderness is dead, because the game is dead. The only people in the wilderness are in clans. The only real solution to spies/leaks would be pming each other for run-ins, but that's hard to do when the latter is ddosing your teamspeak server.

 

2. Disallow clans that don't BOOT hackers/ddosers/etc. you don't punish the father for the son's crimes.

 

3. Adamant has reached it's final immovable place when it could have been stopped about 4 years ago.

 

4. We're all older, Runescape has past its prime and is now awaiting its death bed. The game isn't fun. That's also not realistic now because the only people really still here for the clanning are basically maxed and have every type of chaotic.

 

1. scouts worked before BH, although it doesn't appear that you were around during such a time.

2. if the father let's their kid commit vandalism consistently, and doesn't take care of their kid, then yes you do. the kid is removed from the fathers care because of the fathers inability to raise them.

3.it's immovable because you allow it to be immovable, and clans that make stands to disallow it have gone weak and given up.

4. if the game isn't fun, than what are you playing for

 

 

all of the problems are of your own creation and as a result, you have decisively dug your own grave. your willingness to hop into it just goes along with the problems the community has. it's not like you can't just fix things, you're just unwilling to, because of attitudes like this.

 

 

@ nippon

1. the point of pk trips in olden days wasn't just fighting other pure clans constantly for 2 hours

4. i think you'd be surprised how pleasant some of our community could be, especially if they all grew a pair and stopped with the ddosing and hacking ****.

 

 

 

[Su lc l De]

Support

[Nippon]

@ nippon

1. the point of pk trips in olden days wasn't just fighting other pure clans constantly for 2 hours

 

1.

On several occasions I've tried to encourage pure clans to find action elsewhere. Most visibly in my less active last years in FI, where as an active F2P pker I would give locations of massers teams and actual main clans that could give a decent, relaxed fight and good experience at spamming and piling. Never once did these fights happen. Why? "No, we got a track on [rival clan]". In my experience most clan ranks seem to prefer the competition more than the actual PKing, the aftermath on PW more than what happens during the event, and consequently getting payback or keeping your position the following weekend more than having fun in the game. It has been like this at least since PCL era, perhaps even earlier. I can't say if this is a feature among the ranked members only or the memberbase as a whole, or whether the people who wanted to have fun PKing simply decided to quit clanning (like me).

 

4. i think you'd be surprised how pleasant some of our community could be, especially if they all grew a pair and stopped with the ddosing and hacking ****.

 

4.

Back to your original thought. You say that you enjoy the pride you get from skilling your stats and equipment. This is not so for me, not in the least bit. For the last 7 of the past 8 years in this game I've played for one reason only, PKing. Anything I have to do to be able to compete with other PKers, I will do the easiest way I possibly can. I bot, I pay people to quest for me, I do all of it. The more Jagex makes the ability to compete in wilderness subject to how much effort you want to put into skilling and questing, the more I will cheat to get to that level. I'd rather not cheat, if it was still possible to PK the way I want without cheating. For me, it hasn't since Pest Control came out.

 

[Ch1cken]

As much as I would love to see this happen, it won't. It's way to late lol.