39 Defence

[ff pride]

battlescape

[`Htown]

pretty sure you only find 39 def in clans that try too hard like fi, nme, and eop

[Hittin]

one defense for life

[Booos]

who even cares r[]fl this is runescape u smell me

[-Jared-]

pretty sure you only find 39 def in clans that try too hard like fi, nme, and eop

 

[heesh]

Retarded. Just pushing the boundaries even more, get 40, 39 isn't any more "pure"

[YoShi]

26 def is not pure

30 def is not pure

35 def is not pure

39 def is not pure

 

people seem to have that illusion that actual pures give a **** about you, but we don't. keep getting def levels.

not too long ago your clan would have said 21 defence is not a pure. you guys are getting them too.

 

OT: just let it go, people said anything under 40 Defence is a pure so a few people said "welp, RS is over with soon. why not have some fun and try something new before it's over?"

 

only difference from 35 defence is 1 F2P combat level and Barrows Gloves (if you quested correctly straight from 1 Defence)

 

not the end of the world, though people may treat it that way.

Do you even know what you're talking about. A good amount of ppl in mm including our warlord were higher than 21 def 22,23 by accidents. We also had 2 25 def oldschools for some time now.

[Celtic]

mm accepts 25 def but jeff, hanu, and 3njoi are treated as complete retards b/c of it. just a lil fyi.

 

korrawi been 22 def since like 2k4. now hes 25. could of easily accidently trained it. he didn't. still a stupid move but he's been nominated for worst acc every single year and has won it a couple of times so he bares a harsh burden.

 

and 2/5-39 def isn't pure. Reason why 4 def could be considered pure is: 60 atk 4 def is same cmb as 60 atk 1 def. don't matter.

anything that hinders your acc in it's offensive abilities is un-pure. obviously hp can't be helped. I do consider prayer and 81+ attack un-pure. but 99 atk was actually useful back in the day b/c it gave u higher cmb to give u access to more retards in the wild.

 

and for u retards out there, 28-39 def aka turmoil doesn't give u more offense.

a pure with 1 def will always hit higher than you if you have turm.

Look at it this way, 1-34 prayer is a little over 4 cmbs. a little over 6 for smite.

Turmoil, you get 5.375 cmbs off of prayer, and 6.75 off of defence levels if u are only 28 def.

That's 12 combat levels to achieve 17% more str? 17 strength levels is only 5.66 combat levels.

And that's not all...Add on to the amazing bonus rune pures get from zerker helm, fighter torso, defender, and barrow+swift gloves, rune pures actually hit HIGHER than you at your combat.

 

idiots.

 

[Powrrr]

love how 39 def turm pures think their acc is good

[Stephen]

Who gives a **** its runescape, anyone can have 39 defence if they want to.

[Mustafa]

39 is to much i wish my bot didnt get me 36 ;(

[dandoon]

who cares foe now accepts 45 lol

[HELLA]

and for u retards out there, 28-39 def aka turmoil doesn't give u more offense.

a pure with 1 def will always hit higher than you if you have turm.

Look at it this way, 1-34 prayer is a little over 4 cmbs. a little over 6 for smite.

Turmoil, you get 5.375 cmbs off of prayer, and 6.75 off of defence levels if u are only 28 def.

That's 12 combat levels to achieve 17% more str? 17 strength levels is only 5.66 combat levels.

And that's not all...Add on to the amazing bonus rune pures get from zerker helm, fighter torso, defender, and barrow+swift gloves, rune pures actually hit HIGHER than you at your combat.

idiots.

Here's what getting turmoil will get you level wise (all calculations done with 99 att 99 str 30 def):

 

53-95 Prayer 42 levels => 5.25 CB lvls

1-30 Defence 29 levels => 7.25 CB lvls

Thats a total of 12.5 Combat, but for those levels you also get:

 

29% Attack increase, 32% Strength increase, 28% Defence increase. Compared to the usual 15%,15%,0% with regular prayers, this is an additional 14% attack, 17% strength, and 28% defence.

 

Effectively, a level boost of 14 Attack, 17 Strength, and 8 Defence (if on overloads these numbers are 16 Attack, 19 Strength, 10 Defence).

 

14 Attack => 3.5 CB lvls

17 Strength => 4.25 CB lvls

10 Defence => 2.5 CB lvls

For a grand total of 10.25 CB lvls (if on overloads theres an additional 1.5 effective CB increase for 11.75).

 

So sure you gained 12.5 CB lvls for a boost worth only 11.75 levels. But, you also got all of the stat boosting armor (fungal, snakeskin, addy defender, body body, slayer helms, proselyte, rune(barrows) gloves). And if that is not enough you can also use Rigour and Augury.

 

Rigour gives an effective additional 6 Range over eagle eye as well as well as 9 Defence levels (when on overloads). This is an effective 3 CB lvls when ranging.

 

Augury gives an effective additonal 5 Magic over mystic might and the 9 Defence levels (again, when on overloads). This is another 2.9 CB lvls when maging.

 

The total level benefit is 17.65 CB lvls but only costs 12.5. This also does not include the benefits from the wider gear selection.

 

If you're a 1 Def pure with 77 Prayer and can already use Rigour and Augury, getting Turmoil would only gain you 9.5 CB levels, which is well under the 11.75 effective boost from turmoil.

[♥ Sandra ♥]

I'm 40 defence :)!

[a l 1 killa]

and for u retards out there, 28-39 def aka turmoil doesn't give u more offense.

a pure with 1 def will always hit higher than you if you have turm.

Look at it this way, 1-34 prayer is a little over 4 cmbs. a little over 6 for smite.

Turmoil, you get 5.375 cmbs off of prayer, and 6.75 off of defence levels if u are only 28 def.

That's 12 combat levels to achieve 17% more str? 17 strength levels is only 5.66 combat levels.

And that's not all...Add on to the amazing bonus rune pures get from zerker helm, fighter torso, defender, and barrow+swift gloves, rune pures actually hit HIGHER than you at your combat.

idiots.

Here's what getting turmoil will get you level wise (all calculations done with 99 att 99 str 30 def):

 

53-95 Prayer 42 levels => 5.25 CB lvls

1-30 Defence 29 levels => 7.25 CB lvls

Thats a total of 12.5 Combat, but for those levels you also get:

 

29% Attack increase, 32% Strength increase, 28% Defence increase. Compared to the usual 15%,15%,0% with regular prayers, this is an additional 14% attack, 17% strength, and 28% defence.

 

Effectively, a level boost of 14 Attack, 17 Strength, and 8 Defence (if on overloads these numbers are 16 Attack, 19 Strength, 10 Defence).

 

14 Attack => 3.5 CB lvls

17 Strength => 4.25 CB lvls

10 Defence => 2.5 CB lvls

For a grand total of 10.25 CB lvls (if on overloads theres an additional 1.5 effective CB increase for 11.75).

 

So sure you gained 12.5 CB lvls for a boost worth only 11.75 levels. But, you also got all of the stat boosting armor (fungal, snakeskin, addy defender, body body, slayer helms, proselyte, rune(barrows) gloves). And if that is not enough you can also use Rigour and Augury.

 

Rigour gives an effective additional 6 Range over eagle eye as well as well as 9 Defence levels (when on overloads). This is an effective 3 CB lvls when ranging.

 

Augury gives an effective additonal 5 Magic over mystic might and the 9 Defence levels (again, when on overloads). This is another 2.9 CB lvls when maging.

 

The total level benefit is 17.65 CB lvls but only costs 12.5. This also does not include the benefits from the wider gear selection.

 

If you're a 1 Def pure with 77 Prayer and can already use Rigour and Augury, getting Turmoil would only gain you 9.5 CB levels, which is well under the 11.75 effective boost from turmoil.

clan wars = end of discussion

 

lol if u think clan wars means anything you can put a 40 def account into clan wars and it would be the same thing as a 39 def so your whole argument is pretty much failed

 

Doesn't suprise me that the clan world is dying all the 35 def accounts quit because they cant do much with their accounts 110cb at rev caves means u get killed by 126s and pking in edge means you die to zerks. And people looking into the pure world why would they want to join it to put so much effort into making an account that fails.

[Celtic]

and for u retards out there, 28-39 def aka turmoil doesn't give u more offense.

a pure with 1 def will always hit higher than you if you have turm.

Look at it this way, 1-34 prayer is a little over 4 cmbs. a little over 6 for smite.

Turmoil, you get 5.375 cmbs off of prayer, and 6.75 off of defence levels if u are only 28 def.

That's 12 combat levels to achieve 17% more str? 17 strength levels is only 5.66 combat levels.

And that's not all...Add on to the amazing bonus rune pures get from zerker helm, fighter torso, defender, and barrow+swift gloves, rune pures actually hit HIGHER than you at your combat.

idiots.

Here's what getting turmoil will get you level wise (all calculations done with 99 att 99 str 30 def):

 

53-95 Prayer 42 levels => 5.25 CB lvls

1-30 Defence 29 levels => 7.25 CB lvls

Thats a total of 12.5 Combat, but for those levels you also get:

 

29% Attack increase, 32% Strength increase, 28% Defence increase. Compared to the usual 15%,15%,0% with regular prayers, this is an additional 14% attack, 17% strength, and 28% defence.

 

Effectively, a level boost of 14 Attack, 17 Strength, and 8 Defence (if on overloads these numbers are 16 Attack, 19 Strength, 10 Defence).

 

14 Attack => 3.5 CB lvls

17 Strength => 4.25 CB lvls

10 Defence => 2.5 CB lvls

For a grand total of 10.25 CB lvls (if on overloads theres an additional 1.5 effective CB increase for 11.75).

 

So sure you gained 12.5 CB lvls for a boost worth only 11.75 levels. But, you also got all of the stat boosting armor (fungal, snakeskin, addy defender, body body, slayer helms, proselyte, rune(barrows) gloves). And if that is not enough you can also use Rigour and Augury.

 

Rigour gives an effective additional 6 Range over eagle eye as well as well as 9 Defence levels (when on overloads). This is an effective 3 CB lvls when ranging.

 

Augury gives an effective additonal 5 Magic over mystic might and the 9 Defence levels (again, when on overloads). This is another 2.9 CB lvls when maging.

 

The total level benefit is 17.65 CB lvls but only costs 12.5. This also does not include the benefits from the wider gear selection.

 

If you're a 1 Def pure with 77 Prayer and can already use Rigour and Augury, getting Turmoil would only gain you 9.5 CB levels, which is well under the 11.75 effective boost from turmoil.

ok so I didn't bother deciphering any of this because i can't follow all the implications you made. (like where did you get 14 attack levels?)

I said

hit higher.

as far as I'm aware boosted defence and attack levels don't make you hit higher.

At 89 combat, a pure is maxed. Strength level boosted from strength potions+prayer is 132/139

At 89 combat, a turm acc isn't. Stength level boosted from str/prayer is equal, however weapons are limited because of lack of attack levels. And that is only if fighting a pure, their strength is less vs other types of accounts. I've seen plenty of tanks with 1-50 str.

Pures attack level is 80+17+12 is 109/?

30 def attack level is 60+22+14=96/? so the base attack level is less accurate as well with less accurate weapons. And that is vs a pure with 80 attack, even less vs its twin account, or a tank/rp.

Defence is obviously higher but it literally is nothing in edgeville when non spec hits aren't even important.

 

And don't forget that the pure's brews will heal more, his phoenix necklace will activate at a higher amount of hp, not to mention that his weapons have a higher chance of avoiding pho necklaces.

 

why would you mention augury/rigour. prayers cannot be activated at the same time and using them will cost you 9 cmb levels or w/e.

 

 

 

you did remember that you can't use a 108/109 turm acc to base ur % off of? I cba to go over it.

got to use combat level. Last time i've checked I've never seen a pure that is 108 cmb, hell I don't even see 108 30 def accs in the wild fking ever. Wonder why!!! Even if we were to throw out the definition i set up earlier as a pure having no hindering of offense and just made the definition as 1 def so 98 cmb, the 30 account still wouldnt have max bonus on attack, and maybe even str. hp could or could not be maxed. And lets be honest, those 30def 98cmb accs do not even exist.

 

 

also writing this made me remember of this fking retard who had a 60 atk 10 def 95 prayer with storm of armadyl and like 92 summoning account that was 89cmb, but fking got it 80 attack and 25 defence. honestly that guy is on drugs. why do the retards always luck out.

Now that account, would destroy my argument easily obviously.

[AndyIbeat]

Funny when people get mad about this sort of stuff

 

 

It's runescape, concentrate on your own account.

[sithlord]

While pk to punish wants to stay 1 def for life... i dream of being 39 =)

[Hybrid]

so.. can i get 40 def and say im a failed 39 def pure?

 

 

:wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

[mozzaaap]

idk :(

[AlexWaarrolf]

its gay af

[vladD]

and for u retards out there, 28-39 def aka turmoil doesn't give u more offense.

a pure with 1 def will always hit higher than you if you have turm.

Look at it this way, 1-34 prayer is a little over 4 cmbs. a little over 6 for smite.

Turmoil, you get 5.375 cmbs off of prayer, and 6.75 off of defence levels if u are only 28 def.

That's 12 combat levels to achieve 17% more str? 17 strength levels is only 5.66 combat levels.

And that's not all...Add on to the amazing bonus rune pures get from zerker helm, fighter torso, defender, and barrow+swift gloves, rune pures actually hit HIGHER than you at your combat.

idiots.

Here's what getting turmoil will get you level wise (all calculations done with 99 att 99 str 30 def):

 

53-95 Prayer 42 levels => 5.25 CB lvls

1-30 Defence 29 levels => 7.25 CB lvls

Thats a total of 12.5 Combat, but for those levels you also get:

 

29% Attack increase, 32% Strength increase, 28% Defence increase. Compared to the usual 15%,15%,0% with regular prayers, this is an additional 14% attack, 17% strength, and 28% defence.

 

Effectively, a level boost of 14 Attack, 17 Strength, and 8 Defence (if on overloads these numbers are 16 Attack, 19 Strength, 10 Defence).

 

14 Attack => 3.5 CB lvls

17 Strength => 4.25 CB lvls

10 Defence => 2.5 CB lvls

For a grand total of 10.25 CB lvls (if on overloads theres an additional 1.5 effective CB increase for 11.75).

 

So sure you gained 12.5 CB lvls for a boost worth only 11.75 levels. But, you also got all of the stat boosting armor (fungal, snakeskin, addy defender, body body, slayer helms, proselyte, rune(barrows) gloves). And if that is not enough you can also use Rigour and Augury.

 

Rigour gives an effective additional 6 Range over eagle eye as well as well as 9 Defence levels (when on overloads). This is an effective 3 CB lvls when ranging.

 

Augury gives an effective additonal 5 Magic over mystic might and the 9 Defence levels (again, when on overloads). This is another 2.9 CB lvls when maging.

 

The total level benefit is 17.65 CB lvls but only costs 12.5. This also does not include the benefits from the wider gear selection.

 

If you're a 1 Def pure with 77 Prayer and can already use Rigour and Augury, getting Turmoil would only gain you 9.5 CB levels, which is well under the 11.75 effective boost from turmoil.

ok so I didn't bother deciphering any of this because i can't follow all the implications you made. (like where did you get 14 attack levels?)

I said

hit higher.

as far as I'm aware boosted defence and attack levels don't make you hit higher.

At 89 combat, a pure is maxed. Strength level boosted from strength potions+prayer is 132/139

At 89 combat, a turm acc isn't. Stength level boosted from str/prayer is equal, however weapons are limited because of lack of attack levels. And that is only if fighting a pure, their strength is less vs other types of accounts. I've seen plenty of tanks with 1-50 str.

Pures attack level is 80+17+12 is 109/?

30 def attack level is 60+22+14=96/? so the base attack level is less accurate as well with less accurate weapons. And that is vs a pure with 80 attack, even less vs its twin account, or a tank/rp.

Defence is obviously higher but it literally is nothing in edgeville when non spec hits aren't even important.

 

And don't forget that the pure's brews will heal more, his phoenix necklace will activate at a higher amount of hp, not to mention that his weapons have a higher chance of avoiding pho necklaces.

 

why would you mention augury/rigour. prayers cannot be activated at the same time and using them will cost you 9 cmb levels or w/e.

 

 

 

you did remember that you can't use a 108/109 turm acc to base ur % off of? I cba to go over it.

got to use combat level. Last time i've checked I've never seen a pure that is 108 cmb, hell I don't even see 108 30 def accs in the wild fking ever. Wonder why!!! Even if we were to throw out the definition i set up earlier as a pure having no hindering of offense and just made the definition as 1 def so 98 cmb, the 30 account still wouldnt have max bonus on attack, and maybe even str. hp could or could not be maxed. And lets be honest, those 30def 98cmb accs do not even exist.

 

 

also writing this made me remember of this fking retard who had a 60 atk 10 def 95 prayer with storm of armadyl and like 92 summoning account that was 89cmb, but fking got it 80 attack and 25 defence. honestly that guy is on drugs. why do the retards always luck out.

Now that account, would destroy my argument easily obviously.

 

 

can tell that you crush a lot of tail

 

lady killers over here

[Haf1a]

yolo

[Huge Rush]

is dumb and sends the wrong message to jagex

If anything i think you out of everyone else has point, it really just shows that the pure world will adapt to whatever **** they throw and not resist it (not that we can)

[Blitz F T W]

no1 cares anymore lol.