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F2P:

1.) MM

2.) FI/EoP (slumps from both over decent amounts of time, both always good matched)

3.) ^

4.) FOE

5.) TLP

 

CP would fit on the list as a tie with TLP if their pulling, performances, et cetera weren't so inconsistant with the idea of a 6+ year old clan

You're entitled to your opinion, but taking CP off for TLP for not being consistent is pretty odd reasoning seeing as TLP has never been consistent in F2P themselves.

because TLP has been for a long time constantly top 1-2 matched at 40~ opts, CP is good matched as well, however if you look at their history and attempted to graph it, your line of best interest would be a horizontal line. their good periods and bad periods are basically equivilant in my opinion

 

TLP has always been notorious for inconsistant pulls, yes; but they haven't had as many down periods (or as severe) as CP

 

i do see your point though. idk, it was a tossup for me and TLP won it :-P

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In 2007 Fi was on Top all year except the summer in which Eop was #1 for about 2 months until that fatal fullout for the #1 spot in which Fi won and Eop never came back after that until the end of 2009 early 2010.

 

~Unbiased member of the pure community since 2006

 

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F2P:

1.) MM

2.) FI/EoP (slumps from both over decent amounts of time, both always good matched)

3.) ^

4.) FOE

5.) TLP

 

CP would fit on the list as a tie with TLP if their pulling, performances, et cetera weren't so inconsistant with the idea of a 6+ year old clan

You're entitled to your opinion, but taking CP off for TLP for not being consistent is pretty odd reasoning seeing as TLP has never been consistent in F2P themselves.

because TLP has been for a long time constantly top 1-2 matched at 40~ opts, CP is good matched as well, however if you look at their history and attempted to graph it, your line of best interest would be a horizontal line. their good periods and bad periods are basically equivilant in my opinion

 

TLP has always been notorious for inconsistant pulls, yes; but they haven't had as many down periods (or as severe) as CP

 

i do see your point though. idk, it was a tossup for me and TLP won it :-P

Or you're just biased cause you were in nme?

 

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MM

 

f2p

1MM

FOE

This pretty much, they were the most consistent over the years, and over the updates.

 

But if we had to continue the lists, I'd say.

 

F2P

MM

FOE/EOP - Foe actually did have a long f2p streak which I believe has been ignored, mm ended it, but eop also had quite a long f2p streak in comparison.

FI - Did good once upon a time in 2007, then went into a downspiral for years, now hardly even back up only pulling 60-70s

CP - Right up there with FI, basically on top in f2p for equal amount of time

E - Their reign was short, but impressive.

 

P2P

FOE - Don't really need to explain any of this.

MM

TLP

FI

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MM- Probably the most consistent clan; stayed 1 def when all other clans opted for addy

Foe- ^ until recently; Kings of p2p as well

Fi- Dominated pretty hard during the wilderness era for a long time; had some big slump that took them forever to get out of but are ending really strong. Without that slump in between they would be #1 without a doubt.

Eop- ^ Also dominated and was fairly strong for a while, but inconsistent with huge slumps inbetween.

Tlp- They also dominated the p2p scene at some points and have been overall the best matched clan of all time; they had some crazy p2p win streak at some point.

Cp- Probably the lowest of the HPC's but also had its strong points and managed to stay alive for all these years, and they had a pretty strong community and some kickass leaders.

Z- they have stayed alot longer than I expected from when they were an lpc to a pretty decent clan.

 

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because TLP has been for a long time constantly top 1-2 matched at 40~ opts, CP is good matched as well, however if you look at their history and attempted to graph it, your line of best interest would be a horizontal line. their good periods and bad periods are basically equivilant in my opinion

 

TLP has always been notorious for inconsistant pulls, yes; but they haven't had as many down periods (or as severe) as CP

 

i do see your point though. idk, it was a tossup for me and TLP won it :-P

You seriously have no idea what you're talking about do you and im not trying to troll or bait in any way. I can understand new comers making lists but what i dont get is trying to make it look as if they know what they are talking about, when you've been around here for what, a year now, with little to no knowledge of the golden age clanning period.

 

You're basing this thing of TLP and CP for the past 1 year - 2 yr, when this list is for ALL TIME. We've been in the top 5 for the majority of our existence. Sure we've fallen off and reemerged but we've always been relevant in the discussion of F2p powerhouses.

 

In my opinion, TLP has started shining in the F2P scene only in the past year - 2 years, matched that is, before that they were just another P2P based clan that would venture into f2p, with little impact. I'm not taking anything away from TLP but comparing us to them side by side, I would say We've had the advantage 5/6 years.

 

I also do not remember TLP ever claiming #1, nor winning a full out, nor being the clan that dominated an era such as CP did in the wildy era into the BH Crater/PCL era, also the end of 2010, pulling 100s competing with mm, foe, eop.

 

this is in no way a flame towards TLP, just my own opinion, pretty sure everybody knows TLP's dominance in their own server P2P. You can re quote me and post your usual lines of 15 letter words, draw as many best fit graphs as you want, but you simply don't know what youre talking about due to .. not being around :P.


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You must all forget that MM is the only pure clan out of the big dogs, whether you like it or not your clans have had to adapt to gain an advantage or each respective rivals, truth is that. You can say to enjoy the game but you are blinded by that and with two weeks left till this won't matter its ok to admit that. With that being said MM has beaten clans that have 2x and even 3x their defence average in F2P, their history alone will grant them #1 F2P even if they lose a F2P fullout 0-3 with the other clan having 100 ending. Consistency and a model of great community to all for the pure community.

 

F2P

MM - for the above

FI - their ceiling was actually holding #1 f2p at one point, then having that taken from MM

FOE/EOP - EOP was dominent at one point in this server, EOP were never really smart, they tried to mess with the top dogs MM and the following months they became irrelevant, the propaganda was hard and to a point no longer influential, got boring and old. FOE now they are a shell of themselves, prob due to **** leadership, but were powerful for few summers into fall

CP - for longevity and decent memories, has won full outs and managed to pull 100+ a few weeks in row in early 10 I believe?

 

 

P2P

FOE - Has been solid throughout this whole era, been undefeated in P2P, even though they only had like 4-5 fullouts? Never wanted to put their title at risk, unlike MM who accepted every war came @ them. Pretty weak but w/e, MM would be giving them a run weren't for 30 def and ****.

MM - Wasn't really good at P2P early, got better but the mains were too much for the pures, great pulls amazing history in this server as well, highest P2P pull ever for a pure clan not merged or whatnot.

FI - That loss to FOE 74-91 I believe was huge to the middle part of your history, what if you won. Meh would have been the opposite maybe you would be #1 P2P and have been MM's biggest rival, you will have to settle for top 3 in this ranking. Been great past few months, but consistency my sons. Again their defence has helped them gain an advantage over clans that accept 35 def

 

 


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You must all forget that MM is the only pure clan out of the big dogs, whether you like it or not your clans have had to adapt to gain an advantage or each respective rivals, truth is that. You can say to enjoy the game but you are blinded by that and with two weeks left till this won't matter its ok to admit that. With that being said MM has beaten clans that have 2x and even 3x their defence average in F2P, their history alone will grant them #1 F2P even if they lose a F2P fullout 0-3 with the other clan having 100 ending. Consistency and a model of great community to all for the pure community.

 

F2P

MM - for the above

FI - their ceiling was actually holding #1 f2p at one point, then having that taken from MM

FOE/EOP - EOP was dominent at one point in this server, EOP were never really smart, they tried to mess with the top dogs MM and the following months they became irrelevant, the propaganda was hard and to a point no longer influential, got boring and old. FOE now they are a shell of themselves, prob due to **** leadership, but were powerful for few summers into fall

CP - for longevity and decent memories, has won full outs and managed to pull 100+ a few weeks in row in early 10 I believe?

 

 

P2P

FOE - Has been solid throughout this whole era, been undefeated in P2P, even though they only had like 4-5 fullouts? Never wanted to put their title at risk, unlike MM who accepted every war came @ them. Pretty weak but w/e, MM would be giving them a run weren't for 30 def and ****.

MM - Wasn't really good at P2P early, got better but the mains were too much for the pures, great pulls amazing history in this server as well, highest P2P pull ever for a pure clan not merged or whatnot.

FI - That loss to FOE 74-91 I believe was huge to the middle part of your history, what if you won. Meh would have been the opposite maybe you would be #1 P2P and have been MM's biggest rival, you will have to settle for top 3 in this ranking. Been great past few months, but consistency my sons. Again their defence has helped them gain an advantage over clans that accept 35 def

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Only doing top 3, I don't know what you guys do now a days or in reality, these past few years (lol). So going off of facts from before Bh, pcl, ect and after.

 

 

- MM never lost a fullout from 06-now in f2p. 04 were basically a team and 05 wasn't even that epic for anyone cept for the spur of new clans.

 

MM have never lost a full out? wut? Guess it's just an honest mistake i guess but yh. We've also beaten MM in a p2p full out. For those that rank Eop above Fi in F2p, has Eop ever been a dominant force in f2p? Not talking about being able to compete but never actually taking the spot, or being #1 for 2 months and getting dethroned? Simple answer is no. Fi dominated F2p in late 2006/2007 (Eop had 2 months but yh)/2008 (When Fi set the bar for all other pure clans)/2009(Ended Foe's undefeated Sat streak and was the first clan to beat MM since their victory against Foe). Sure Fi were irrelevant in 2010/2011(Well not really seeing as they were #1 for a brief period in 2010) but from a chasm of despair they worked their way back up in 2012 and have finished the most dominant clan of the year. Eop however haven't demonstrated such dominance and actually even closed so yh.

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You must all forget that MM is the only pure clan out of the big dogs, whether you like it or not your clans have had to adapt to gain an advantage or each respective rivals, truth is that. You can say to enjoy the game but you are blinded by that and with two weeks left till this won't matter its ok to admit that. With that being said MM has beaten clans that have 2x and even 3x their defence average in F2P, their history alone will grant them #1 F2P even if they lose a F2P fullout 0-3 with the other clan having 100 ending. Consistency and a model of great community to all for the pure community.

 

F2P

MM - for the above

FI - their ceiling was actually holding #1 f2p at one point, then having that taken from MM

FOE/EOP - EOP was dominent at one point in this server, EOP were never really smart, they tried to mess with the top dogs MM and the following months they became irrelevant, the propaganda was hard and to a point no longer influential, got boring and old. FOE now they are a shell of themselves, prob due to **** leadership, but were powerful for few summers into fall

CP - for longevity and decent memories, has won full outs and managed to pull 100+ a few weeks in row in early 10 I believe?

 

 

P2P

FOE - Has been solid throughout this whole era, been undefeated in P2P, even though they only had like 4-5 fullouts? Never wanted to put their title at risk, unlike MM who accepted every war came @ them. Pretty weak but w/e, MM would be giving them a run weren't for 30 def and ****.

MM - Wasn't really good at P2P early, got better but the mains were too much for the pures, great pulls amazing history in this server as well, highest P2P pull ever for a pure clan not merged or whatnot.

FI - That loss to FOE 74-91 I believe was huge to the middle part of your history, what if you won. Meh would have been the opposite maybe you would be #1 P2P and have been MM's biggest rival, you will have to settle for top 3 in this ranking. Been great past few months, but consistency my sons. Again their defence has helped them gain an advantage over clans that accept 35 def

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1. epidemix - omg

 

F2P All Time

1. MM

2. FOE

3. EOP/FI

4. ^

5. CP

 

P2P All Time

1. FOE

2. MM

3. FI/TLP

4. ^

5. EOP/DP

Probs best non bias one i've seen.

I would say Ir or Carnage was better than Dp in P2P

 

I was tempted to put either Ir along side DP but I can't say I can really remember IR being as influencial in P2P for as long as DP was. They maintained #3 in P2P for 4-5 months consistently (but I'm a new *** from 08 so I guess I've missed a lot) pulling 50, peaking at 90 a few times for a good 3-4 months during the BH/PvP era.

 

I was in E, who weren't the best in P2P but still managed to beat both IR/C matched on a few occasions (C being in a 50 vs 50+ as well), so that did kinda influence my views I guess.

 

Probably wrong in some areas but just a justification for my reasoning.

 

 

Edit;

 

Idk if replies got deleted but it looks like some people are so caught up in picking an argument that they're arguing against their own points lmfao

No you're right in what you said, DP overall was better than IR and Carnage in P2P, at all three clan's peak in P2P I think Carnage was the best in P2P but overall in P2P DP had to be the best of the three

 

IR vs Carnage Full out :NULL:

 

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You must all forget that MM is the only pure clan out of the big dogs, whether you like it or not your clans have had to adapt to gain an advantage or each respective rivals, truth is that. You can say to enjoy the game but you are blinded by that and with two weeks left till this won't matter its ok to admit that. With that being said MM has beaten clans that have 2x and even 3x their defence average in F2P, their history alone will grant them #1 F2P even if they lose a F2P fullout 0-3 with the other clan having 100 ending. Consistency and a model of great community to all for the pure community.

 

F2P

MM - for the above

FI - their ceiling was actually holding #1 f2p at one point, then having that taken from MM

FOE/EOP - EOP was dominent at one point in this server, EOP were never really smart, they tried to mess with the top dogs MM and the following months they became irrelevant, the propaganda was hard and to a point no longer influential, got boring and old. FOE now they are a shell of themselves, prob due to **** leadership, but were powerful for few summers into fall

CP - for longevity and decent memories, has won full outs and managed to pull 100+ a few weeks in row in early 10 I believe?

 

 

P2P

FOE - Has been solid throughout this whole era, been undefeated in P2P, even though they only had like 4-5 fullouts? Never wanted to put their title at risk, unlike MM who accepted every war came @ them. Pretty weak but w/e, MM would be giving them a run weren't for 30 def and ****.

MM - Wasn't really good at P2P early, got better but the mains were too much for the pures, great pulls amazing history in this server as well, highest P2P pull ever for a pure clan not merged or whatnot.

FI - That loss to FOE 74-91 I believe was huge to the middle part of your history, what if you won. Meh would have been the opposite maybe you would be #1 P2P and have been MM's biggest rival, you will have to settle for top 3 in this ranking. Been great past few months, but consistency my sons. Again their defence has helped them gain an advantage over clans that accept 35 def

you do realise foe was in single in the 74v91

le strategies

 

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You must all forget that MM is the only pure clan out of the big dogs, whether you like it or not your clans have had to adapt to gain an advantage or each respective rivals, truth is that. You can say to enjoy the game but you are blinded by that and with two weeks left till this won't matter its ok to admit that. With that being said MM has beaten clans that have 2x and even 3x their defence average in F2P, their history alone will grant them #1 F2P even if they lose a F2P fullout 0-3 with the other clan having 100 ending. Consistency and a model of great community to all for the pure community.

 

F2P

MM - for the above

FI - their ceiling was actually holding #1 f2p at one point, then having that taken from MM

FOE/EOP - EOP was dominent at one point in this server, EOP were never really smart, they tried to mess with the top dogs MM and the following months they became irrelevant, the propaganda was hard and to a point no longer influential, got boring and old. FOE now they are a shell of themselves, prob due to **** leadership, but were powerful for few summers into fall

CP - for longevity and decent memories, has won full outs and managed to pull 100+ a few weeks in row in early 10 I believe?

 

 

P2P

FOE - Has been solid throughout this whole era, been undefeated in P2P, even though they only had like 4-5 fullouts? Never wanted to put their title at risk, unlike MM who accepted every war came @ them. Pretty weak but w/e, MM would be giving them a run weren't for 30 def and ****.

MM - Wasn't really good at P2P early, got better but the mains were too much for the pures, great pulls amazing history in this server as well, highest P2P pull ever for a pure clan not merged or whatnot.

FI - That loss to FOE 74-91 I believe was huge to the middle part of your history, what if you won. Meh would have been the opposite maybe you would be #1 P2P and have been MM's biggest rival, you will have to settle for top 3 in this ranking. Been great past few months, but consistency my sons. Again their defence has helped them gain an advantage over clans that accept 35 def

you do realise foe was in single in the 74v91

le strategies

 

GWAS

 

Indeed, at least Fatality has won multiple full outs in there whole existence whereas EoP has won none against the top dogs.

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F2P All Time

1.MM

2.FOE

3.EOP

4.FI (slump 4 years, inconsistent)

5.CP

 

P2P All Time

1.FOE

2.MM

3.TLP

4.FI (slump 4 years, inconsistent)

5. EOP

6. CPR/Carnage (bias + had a huge rivalry back in 09 fueling both clans)\

 

 

eop shouldn't even be on the list but meh

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I think my ip is safe if mods don't have access to them anymore so yeah

 

A lot of people have said that fi's dominance in the last couple weeks was down to the top dogs not really caring at this point, but FI vehemently opposed that notion. I think today showed that it was true. FI called upon all its resources at ~3 days notice as did MM and the results showed. MM #1 f2p now and forever.

 

Also lol @ guy above me crying about like 3 hf kids coming on mains just because their pures couldn't attack FI who were hugging single digit wild. How about you complain about your members and ex-fi base who failed to represent their clan today instead?

 

f2p

1. MM

2. FOE

 

p2p

1. FOE

2. MM

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