30 Defence/Anything above 53 prayer

[13th]

1-9 def is pure

 

10-19 def is failed pure

 

20 def is mithlord

 

21+ def is fatalitypure

 

max prayer shud be 52, 53 in some cases cus they did some quest afterwards... i can accept that ****-up but its a ****** nonetheless

 

these new 33 deffers with barrow gloves are not pures

 

nor are the 29 deffers with 95+ pray

[Zyox]

1-9 def is pure

 

10-19 def is failed pure

 

20 def is mithlord

 

21+ def is fatalitypure

 

max prayer shud be 52, 53 in some cases cus they did some quest afterwards... i can accept that ****-up but its a ****** nonetheless

 

these new 33 deffers with barrow gloves are not pures

 

nor are the 29 deffers with 95+ pray

Agreed. Although I would say that 10 defense still is pure. Alot of us have had the whip glitch (when pures used to use whips lol) happen and took our defense up. Enough opted for the last level or 2 to get 10 defense. I'd say it still is pure, but anything above is failed pure.

[Zyox]

Oh, and there is no such thing as: addy, agile, rune, zerker, neizinot/granite, barrow, or DFS pures.

 

Anything with over 10 defense is failed pure. 20 defense is really streching it for being called a pure. When idiots decide to put anything above 52 pray, you're not a pure either.

[333]

Oh, and there is no such thing as: addy, agile, rune, zerker, neizinot/granite, barrow, or DFS pures.

 

Anything with over 10 defense is failed pure. 20 defense is really streching it for being called a pure. When idiots decide to put anything above 52 pray, you're not a pure either.

 

Yes. But wrecks.

[Pbs Scout]

30 defence aint pure, but 31 def is.

[Loz]

So does hp. IS THAT UNPURE TOO!?!?!?!!?!?!? OMG MUST BE 10 HP OR IM NOT PURE!??!?!?!?!?!??!!!

 

This is correct.

[Gack]

Anyone over 25+ def should be kicked from their clans for not being a pure!

 

/endofstory

[B_imbo]

I guess with the whole Defence thing, You can't stop/change it - people will just get what they want and argue or whatever. I think it's 29 Defence from 1 if you want to get the new prayers (quest reward). But I don't understand the people who get 70+ Prayer without doing any quests, I guess It's for tanking/clanning etc but if you do the Piety quest the reward is 33k Defence experience :s

[Hidden]

Alright I'm skipping straight to my views and I'm not reading the discussion that's already taken place;

 

Pures have changed incredibly since they first came out, and nowdays it is basicly impossible to tell someone that 5, 10, 20 or 30 Defence isn't Pure. It's just what's being accepted, as I believe, the original 'Pure' was a single stat? 40 99 1?

 

Now, with your defence question I will believe that the only true level a Pure should have is 1, however it's not about what people believe as a true Pure, it's what's accepted by society and clans. I believe some clans now accept 30 Defence (IR I think?) and the way the Pure world is heading, eventually every clan will accept 30 Defence. I'm not sure how much higher it will go then that, as there are Rune Pure Clans for a reason. But there is no doubt in my mind, that by late '10 or early '11, 30 Defence will be an accepted thing.

 

Now as for Prayer, just shut your mouth. Prayer isn't capped in any pure clan, as some pures won't consider themselves maxed out until 99 Prayer, and you should let them have this accomplishment. If they can afford to get 70 Prayer, they deserve to use it. Just as someone who can afford and AGS should be allowed to use it in PvP or BH.

 

In the end, as I said, it comes down to what's accepted by society, which has undoubtedly lead to the **** up of the entire Pure Clanning World.

 

Peace .

[iRollTreeZ]

1 def is a pure anything above is just a Def daddy

[Lolercats]

Anyone over 25+ def should be kicked from their clans for not being a pure!

 

/endofstory

Oh, why not 24+ def? Because someone in mm is 25 def? ;)

[Mark]

Oh, why not 24+ def? Because someone in mm is 25 def? ;)

 

Actually the highest defense lvl in MM is 24 lol

[once phailed]

back in the day pray was considered impure.

[Lamotrigine]

Full on agree, I had a topic about it on foe forums and no 1 gave a ****. 60 pray is like having 30 def from the cmb lvls.

[Kruckcrusher]

If you're using defence as an offensive bonus how does that make you a pure? That makes you a MAIN.

 

Wow someone that knows what he is talking about.

I agree with that most clans have forgotten the "True meaning of being pure" and have twisted it into "30 def is pure" if you really think that you are no difference from Higher forces or Valhalla.

[Toby]

30 def isn't pure. End of story. Say whatever the hell you want I don't care. If you have 30 def. Just quit life, or make a new pure.

 

This goes for anyone I don't care.

 

~ Mime Loudly

[Tbh Mauled]

Imo 1-20 def is fine but 30 def is a no no, how can u call that pure in any way, if your gonna do that soon people will just get b gloves at 37 defence.

Im undecided on prayer.

[Zerker Jane]

So 27 defence with 95 prayer (and turmoil) is pure in OP's opinion right?

 

Since the prayer levels DO add more offensive power.

[vlooieneuker]

runescape pvp today isnt about pures anymore. stop living in the past.

more def = more str bonus = more damage. pvp is about damage.

it used to be all about pures because defence didnt add that str bonus back then.

same for prayer, 31pray was all a pker needed. higher was just a waste of combat levels.

now theres piety, turmoil which makes prayer worth it for pvpers even at 70 and 95pray.

 

jagex is just releasing new combat boosts every now and then making 'being 1def 31pray' not the only option for a pvper.

 

the only advantages of pures and pureclans today are faster battles and less losses on death :/

no having to get more rune defenders, torsos etc and no hours and hours of battle for 1 fight. takes about 15minutes at most for 2 pure clans to finish a fight.

[Carnage]

runescape pvp today isnt about pures anymore. stop living in the past.

more def = more str bonus = more damage. pvp is about damage.

it used to be all about pures because defence didnt add that str bonus back then.

same for prayer, 31pray was all a pker needed. higher was just a waste of combat levels.

now theres piety, turmoil which makes prayer worth it for pvpers even at 70 and 95pray.

 

jagex is just releasing new combat boosts every now and then making 'being 1def 31pray' not the only option for a pvper.

 

the only advantages of pures and pureclans today are faster battles and less losses on death :/

no having to get more rune defenders, torsos etc and no hours and hours of battle for 1 fight. takes about 15minutes at most for 2 pure clans to finish a fight.

No that is not the entire point.

 

The point of being pure back in the day was to have the best offensive attributes at a LOWER LEVEL.

Level 100+ is not a "lower level" pvper.

Face it you wouldn't stand a chance against a rune tank, etc. with prayer so why do people claim 30+ def with 95 prayer is pure? It isn't.

Someone could be 40 defence and be around the same level as these ******* "addy daddys" or "mith lords" yet they aren't considered pure because they're 2 levels higher? You're an idiot.

 

I rest my case.

[`Pure]

No that is not the entire point.

 

The point of being pure back in the day was to have the best offensive attributes at a LOWER LEVEL.

Level 100+ is not a "lower level" pvper.

Face it you wouldn't stand a chance against a rune tank, etc. with prayer so why do people claim 30+ def with 95 prayer is pure? It isn't.

Someone could be 40 defence and be around the same level as these ******* "addy daddys" or "mith lords" yet they aren't considered pure because they're 2 levels higher? You're an idiot.

 

I rest my case.

He never said they were pure lol.

 

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[James Barrag3d]

The whole point of being a pure was to be the lowest combat possible to tear **** up. I believe that 30defence and 95prayer do meet this requirement. Think of it this way. If you had a 30defence account with 95prayer 70 attack 99str 90hp and 99mage you would be 96combat. You would be beating the **** out of maxed 1 defense pures like their nothing. Would you rather be the maxed 1 defense pure whos getting theyre **** wrecked or the 30 defense pure?

[Jet]

26+ defence = not a pure

 

95 prayer is questionable. Unneccessary to me imo, a 44 pray pure would wreck a 95 pray pure if they were the same combat level, being under 90ish combat.

 

I'd go as far to say that 95+ combat.. not really a pure. Mains are 95 combat.. anything in the triple digits is just unpure to me. When your at the point, that in pvp your always fighting mains.. i'm going to classify you as a main.

 

This is just my opinion, please don't have a heart attack or anything because my view are diff than yours.

[Matthew]

My opinion: 30 def is not pure.

 

A majority of pures disagree because I can gaurentee there is at least one person with 30 def on most pure clan memberlists.

[S U W 0 0 P]

30+ def 53+ prayer is win