Low Divison.

[Jonty]

k guys, enough:

 

1) VD are low med, not low, as their requirements obviously show. And they have stayed open long enough that they obviously have some sort of leadership and organizational qualities.

 

2) Conspiracy at one point had more then 70 people on their ml, yet i think their highest pull was 30ish, you aren't a successful clan, you are a failed low level clan with low requirements, yet your only active members are 65+ , and the only reason you are alive is due to a core member list of ~15 people who are only sticking around because they either want a rank, or there is no other clan out there. If i remember correctly, Virtue would own you guys regularly, and when they closed, you were the only other clan around, hence your large inactive memberlist.

 

3) Justin, i can't remember why, but you are an idiot.

 

4) @ dave, DB was a failed med level clan full of level 80s in mithril who thought it was funny to ask malice for mini's and never show up. You then fought clans with far lower averages then you on the weekend, and claimed you were #1 low level, when really you should have been fighting clans like M and Cy as we had lower pulls at that time.

 

5) The lack of moderation on this topic consisting of 95% flame is astounding.

 

ps. VD #1

[Kris]

1) MP closed, not associated with CS. Closed because of slumping and losing a full-out to VD.

2) CS is doing awful. You're losing every run-in with VD, and other clans are beating you. You're pulling like 15 max.

3) Get a decent PK leader lol.

 

Pulling 10-20 to PK Trips is not successful. At least the other low level clans have an ML of 30, CS has 50+ members.

 

its called a slump.

 

 

There's no such thing as a #1 clan. There never will be a #1 clan. The only thing what you can call a good clan , is a clan where you have fun in. Winning or losing. Succes is not in never failing , but in getting up everytime you fail.

 

Cs pride

[Crumps]

k guys, enough:

 

1) VD are low med, not low, as their requirements obviously show. And they have stayed open long enough that they obviously have some sort of leadership and organizational qualities.

 

2) Conspiracy at one point had more then 70 people on their ml, yet i think their highest pull was 30ish, you aren't a successful clan, you are a failed low level clan with low requirements, yet your only active members are 65+ , and the only reason you are alive is due to a core member list of ~15 people who are only sticking around because they either want a rank, or there is no other clan out there. If i remember correctly, Virtue would own you guys regularly, and when they closed, you were the only other clan around, hence your large inactive memberlist.

 

3) Justin, i can't remember why, but you are an idiot.

 

4) @ dave, DB was a failed med level clan full of level 80s in mithril who thought it was funny to ask malice for mini's and never show up. You then fought clans with far lower averages then you on the weekend, and claimed you were #1 low level, when really you should have been fighting clans like M and Cy as we had lower pulls at that time.

 

5) The lack of moderation on this topic consisting of 95% flame is astounding.

 

ps. VD #1

 

 

 

we dont have a 70 ml anymore we did a sweep and soon another yes its a slump u dont realize that cuz ur not in it..lol

 

ofc we notice we only have like 20-30ish decents members but ifc were not dumb we no the spys/people who dont come to events we keep track.

[H0W3]

Oh I didn't help in opening I just did half the work on the forums <3 jk

 

Anyway great topic the people saying it's not just want more people to join there clans but that's ok. I think low level clans are more fun if they can pull so there's actully a point. If any one is opening a new clan, omnicide would love to help you can conntact us by going to #omnicide. Reis thanks for making this topic and I hope we can work together in helping clans grow.

[H0W3]

Lmaooo. Vd is #1? roflllllllllllllll

[fkye]

May I remind you low leveled idiots, Infection was the only true low level clan and was #1 at its time.

[Tbh Mauled]

i say because your clan closed reis, you cannot blame it on a lack of low level pures.

 

The whole concept of having a low level pure community is pointless when i can train or bot an account to a 70 stat, which is the req for clans like CP i do believe, in a week, and i would not have to waste my time with the boring trips of pulling 15 people, only to get cleared by a group of massers as soon as you hop to a busy world :\

 

Look at clans like CS, they have like 8 people on their ml with a 99 combat stat, that isn't low level, and by placing yourselves in a capped level category, once your members get to level 70 cb what are you going to do? People over level 70cb in low level clans look like paedofiles at a childrens birthday party. Or you could do as OD do, and apparantley kick people at 70 cb, which for some reason i do not see happening once their leaders get to that sort of cb.

 

The rest of us have no responsiblity towards the low level community.

 

/end

But as the clan develops, and people train it becomes med, higher then closes, exactly like malice.

Its a cycle which helps the whole pure community imo.

[Adamant]

Oh i forgot how well VD's leadership is

They're mediocre at best, but your leadership is awful. None of you know how to run a clan, none of you have ever ran a clan, I don't any of you have even been staff in a decent clan.

 

its called a slump.

 

 

There's no such thing as a #1 clan. There never will be a #1 clan. The only thing what you can call a good clan , is a clan where you have fun in. Winning or losing. Succes is not in never failing , but in getting up everytime you fail.

 

Cs pride

Is that what crappy clans say? Successful pure clans base a part of their success on their trips. No one has fun getting cleared every weekend because they're inactive and full of crappy leadership. Not to mention your community is awful, from many people I've heard from and my spy.

 

we dont have a 70 ml anymore we did a sweep and soon another yes its a slump u dont realize that cuz ur not in it..lol

 

ofc we notice we only have like 20-30ish decents members but ifc were not dumb we no the spys/people who dont come to events we keep track.

You don't know what a sweep is, what you do is moronic lol. You know the spies? Anthoni had to tell you my first spy which was obvious to everyone except CS, my second spy I went to no events at all, and was never called a spy. I had to post a topic exposing it.

 

 

OD has done nothing, even in the low level clan world, so idk why they even make threats.

CS started off mass recruiting, and now that's back-fired, they have nothing intelligent to say. Your leaders screwed you from the start.

[Pete]

Adamant, you act as if nobody knows your the leader of Vd.

[Adamant]

Adamant, you act as if nobody knows your the leader of Vd.

[17:22] -Vectra[12]- ** (CLAN): heart_loss is in 1 clan: Addy Daddys (Link: http://z11.invisionfree.com/Tlp_Rs/index.php?)

 

You act like you know something. I quit VD ~2 weeks ago for many reasons. My posts aren't even pro-VD, more anti-CS/OD.

[Dave]

Kinda sad how Dave is trolling my post when DB was led by a 90+, had pretty much the same combat average as a med clan and claimed DB was a low level clan.

 

This is exactly what I mean by we need a combat cap for low level clans, otherwise you have level 90s running around saying they're low level.

 

And I'm not saying we made a big impact on the lower division, but what we did has got to be better than a med clan coming to compete with low level clans because they cant compete with clans of their levels

OK, how many ******* times does it have to be said that a clans level isn't based on a SINGLE person, so ******* what, I was level 90. Doesn't mean the whole clan is, you were in 100% agreement that OB was a low level clan, but we had lower averages than them? How is that possible that we are med, yet OB wasn't. And to answer your question, we did fight Med/High level clans, we mini'd EOP, CP, TLP, MM, Epidemic numerous times.

[Adamant]

exactly what i said, you guys still flame each other over being #1 when you BOTH SUCK

 

pssh idiots

Tru that

 

I lead Insignia

 

Yes, we didn't have the greatest weekend trips. Yes, we did not have the numbers that CS and VD had.

 

But one thing we did have was RESPECT. Respect for both of you as other similar-level clans who we could mini war.

 

I think the greatest problem with both your clans is the lack of respect you show towards other clans. Yes, there will be an occasional troll, but the fact is that you are both low level clans, and without each other, your Saturday trips would be as boring as HELL. I think both clans need to start to show more respect to each other. (I'm not saying your clans are the only cases, but the flaming on this topic is just ridiculous)

 

Onto the topic. Yes, I acknowledge the fact that low level clans are starting to bring level 75s and higher, which should not be the case. I think if the future of low level clans is to flourish, the following changes are needed:

- Even lower stat requirements.

- A combat cap of ~70

- No more flaming.

 

NOTE: If you troll my post, you are only making yourself look like a ****.

Your clan lasted like 4 weeks, was completely dead for 2 of those weeks, and died the other 2 weeks. What are you talking about? Flaming is part of the clan world, for clans to suck each others cocks would make it less fun.

 

The troll part lured me.

[TRiXx]

They're mediocre at best, but your leadership is awful. None of you know how to run a clan, none of you have ever ran a clan, I don't any of you have even been staff in a decent clan.

 

 

Is that what crappy clans say? Successful pure clans base a part of their success on their trips. No one has fun getting cleared every weekend because they're inactive and full of crappy leadership. Not to mention your community is awful, from many people I've heard from and my spy.

 

 

You don't know what a sweep is, what you do is moronic lol. You know the spies? Anthoni had to tell you my first spy which was obvious to everyone except CS, my second spy I went to no events at all, and was never called a spy. I had to post a topic exposing it.

 

 

OD has done nothing, even in the low level clan world, so idk why they even make threats.

CS started off mass recruiting, and now that's back-fired, they have nothing intelligent to say. Your leaders screwed you from the start.

 

I have never ran a low level clan? Lost Cause and Omnicide, ive had ranked positions in Resurrection which was the first clan I ever joined I know how to run a clan I just do it different :). We've been open for 2 weeks what do you expect us to do? Have a 100 Man Ml and be on the cover on Maxim? Gimme a break. Only person I like in VD is Pkers hes super cool.

[Adamant]

I have never ran a low level clan? Lost Cause and Omnicide, ive had ranked positions in Resurrection which was the first clan I ever joined I know how to run a clan I just do it different :). We've been open for 2 weeks what do you expect us to do? Have a 100 Man Ml and be on the cover on Maxim? Gimme a break. Only person I like in VD is Pkers hes super cool.

1) I said decent clan, whatever Resurrection was, wasn't a decent clan.

2) No, but you just have a 30 man ML and talk crap, yet do nothing in PVP.

3) That's because pk3rs is a deadweight, and hardly does anything related to VD besides attend events.