Marijuana

[-Adam-]

illegal: We have enough idiots in the world.

[Kris]

pot is addicting

 

i laugh at anybody who tells me otherwise and will proceed to destroy them with my knowledge in this subject. Pot is addicting. Technically, you can overdose on pot but its a ridiculous amount that it's physically impossible to smoke all of that amount in 15 min span. Also, pot is damaging to your brain, contrary to popular opinion.

 

Pot does not cause lung cancer but does decrease lung capacity simply because you are inhaling burning substances which damage the cells of the lungs.

 

Pot affects your memory.;

 

Pot is less harmful than alcohol; actually "psychoactive shrooms" are less damaging to your body than weed.

 

Substancial pot use over a long span of time can affect your moods greatly. So this does not mean pot is some consequence free drug that you should smoke everyday.

 

Hmm, anybody want to try to dispute any of the points Ive stated?

 

I smoke to get high because the world is so low

[KaZa]

I have Mixed Feelings. I smoke bud once in a while and in my small town its a rush. However I feel like part of the fun is that it is illegal as well as if it is legalized it would be taxed heavily and wouldn't be worth it to smoke. During Prohibition in the 1920s more people drank than before and after prohibition, due to the fact it was illegal, the same thing will happen to weed so I guess I don't care either way.

[KaZa]

pot is addicting

 

i laugh at anybody who tells me otherwise and will proceed to destroy them with my knowledge in this subject. Pot is addicting. Technically, you can overdose on pot but its a ridiculous amount that it's physically impossible to smoke all of that amount in 15 min span. Also, pot is damaging to your brain, contrary to popular opinion.

 

Pot does not cause lung cancer but does decrease lung capacity simply because you are inhaling burning substances which damage the cells of the lungs.

 

Pot affects your memory.;

 

Pot is less harmful than alcohol; actually "psychoactive shrooms" are less damaging to your body than weed.

 

Substancial pot use over a long span of time can affect your moods greatly. So this does not mean pot is some consequence free drug that you should smoke everyday.

 

Hmm, anybody want to try to dispute any of the points Ive stated?

Oh my god... Crawl back into your hole.

[H00DNlGGA33]

i stay blowin trees u already know

[Nippon]

pot is addicting

 

Yes, in the same way as sugar or watching TV is addictive. Anything that feels good is addictive.

 

i laugh at anybody who tells me otherwise and will proceed to destroy them with my knowledge in this subject. Pot is addicting. Technically, you can overdose on pot but its a ridiculous amount that it's physically impossible to smoke all of that amount in 15 min span. Also, pot is damaging to your brain, contrary to popular opinion.

 

Nice evidence. Pot does not damage your brain. While some studies show a correlation between cannabis use and psychotic symptoms, there is no evidence of the causal relationship.

 

Pot does not cause lung cancer but does decrease lung capacity simply because you are inhaling burning substances which damage the cells of the lungs.

Which is why eating or vaporizing should be encouraged. First we have to get rid of all the gibberish propaganda.

 

Pot affects your memory.;

Show me a study that shows long term negative effects of cannabis use on memory. I'll save you the trouble, there aren't any. What most studies indicate is that both acute and chronic cannabis use have effects on your memory, but that these effects will gradually cease to exist some time after stopping the use of cannabis. Furthermore, chronic cannabis users show better results in motoric/memory tests than short-time users, indicating a way for the brain to compensate for dysfunctional neural pathways associated with the cronic use of cannabis.

 

http://ro.uow.edu.au/theses/3226/

http://www.psy-journal.com/article/S0165-1...0290-4/abstract

 

Substancial pot use over a long span of time can affect your moods greatly. So this does not mean pot is some consequence free drug that you should smoke everyday.

Yes, but when you quit smoking the effects aren't permanent, except for the possible effects that heavy smoking might've had to your life.

 

Hmm, anybody want to try to dispute any of the points Ive stated?

I believe I did.

[Azrael]

Nippon going hard in the debates forum like a champ.

[Nippon]

Nippon going hard in the debates forum like a champ.

 

Ya'll need to start posting more, PC debates forum was a lot more active :confused:

[Rino-Addy]

Nippon going hard as ****

 

and he's right, saying that pot is addictive is plain stupid, it's IMPOSSIBLE to be addicted to it. yes, some people will say they are (proven 1/10 people THINK that they are addicted to it), but if they opened their eyes they'd realise they can function just fine without smoking, that they won't have the after-effects of lowering or stopping the dosage of weed, they won't be depressed (unless they're mentally unstable wich means they shouldn't smoke something that effects your brain in good or bad way, at all; they should visit mental insitution lol).

 

non-smokers tend to think people are addicted, they often ask their smoking friends/relatives "why do you smoke so much/often, but you say you're not addicted to it?" - it's simple, people smoke it becase they enjoy it, because they WANT TO, not because their body or their brain forces them to take it. yes, there are people that smoke just to fit in their society or group of friends, but that's a whole different story.

 

people that judge pot smokers are ussually people that smoke cigarettes themselves and consume alcohol..hypocrisity (i'm foreigner, give me a break). it's a proven fact that cigarettes are MORE harmfull and MORE addictive than marijuana; even more addictive and more harmfull than 70% of so called "hard" drugs (mdma, e's, speed, acid, peyote, poppers, dmt, shrooms etc..)..people are dying all over the world because of it.

 

alcohol? oh please..how many people have died because they overdosed on pot? zero (because you have to smoke like 1,000 joints within 15 minutes wich is impossible). how many people have died because they overdosed on alcohol? over a million.

 

car accidents? getting beat up, sometimes to death because a group of people were too drunk to know what's going on? stabbing? violence? how many people have died in car accidents because they were consuming alcohol..over 2 million my friends. how many people have died while they were too "high" to drive? zero.

 

 

 

saying that it harms your memory and brain is incorrect; yes, maybe some people are "dumber" during the "high" state (1-4hrs), but it's only because they're not used to it. long term effects? none, it's been proven. everything else saying that it harms your memory or brain is simply political propaganda, similar to EOP propaganda here on PW; they will do anything to make people believe in that propaganda, except the fact that politicians actually succeed in that, and eop doesnt :P

 

anyways, i got off the topic now with this crap, so i'm just gonna stop writing.

 

oh and yes, i'm a smoker myself, incase some people think that i'm talking out of my ass.

[Nippon]

Nippon going hard as ****

 

and he's right, saying that pot is addictive is plain stupid, it's IMPOSSIBLE to be addicted to it. yes, some people will say they are (proven 1/10 people THINK that they are addicted to it), but if they opened their eyes they'd realise they can function just fine without smoking, that they won't have the after-effects of lowering or stopping the dosage of weed, they won't be depressed (unless they're mentally unstable wich means they shouldn't smoke something that effects your brain in good or bad way, at all; they should visit mental insitution lol).

 

non-smokers tend to think people are addicted, they often ask their smoking friends/relatives "why do you smoke so much/often, but you say you're not addicted to it?" - it's simple, people smoke it becase they enjoy it, because they WANT TO, not because their body or their brain forces them to take it. yes, there are people that smoke just to fit in their society or group of friends, but that's a whole different story.

 

Pot is addictive, I never said it isn't. I'd say that the addictive potential (for me) is somewhere between watching TV and having sex. I can live without pot, I think I could live without sex and I could definitely live without TV, but I tend to consume all of them in moderation.

[Rino-Addy]

Nippon going hard as ****

 

and he's right, saying that pot is addictive is plain stupid, it's IMPOSSIBLE to be addicted to it. yes, some people will say they are (proven 1/10 people THINK that they are addicted to it), but if they opened their eyes they'd realise they can function just fine without smoking, that they won't have the after-effects of lowering or stopping the dosage of weed, they won't be depressed (unless they're mentally unstable wich means they shouldn't smoke something that effects your brain in good or bad way, at all; they should visit mental insitution lol).

 

non-smokers tend to think people are addicted, they often ask their smoking friends/relatives "why do you smoke so much/often, but you say you're not addicted to it?" - it's simple, people smoke it becase they enjoy it, because they WANT TO, not because their body or their brain forces them to take it. yes, there are people that smoke just to fit in their society or group of friends, but that's a whole different story.

 

Pot is addictive, I never said it isn't. I'd say that the addictive potential (for me) is somewhere between watching TV and having sex. I can live without pot, I think I could live without sex and I could definitely live without TV, but I tend to consume all of them in moderation.

 

there's more definitions of addiction in my opinion..i'm dissagreeing with people saying pot is as addictive as cocaine, heroine,meth, cigarettes....people saying that pot "addicts" can't live without the herb - they're wrong and i dissagree on that part and that is exactly what i was saying in my reply :)

 

yes, we can all live without pot, without sex and without tv, but if we call all those things addictive, then hey, 99% of stuff we do is addictive in some unique way. wich is true, but i wasn't talking about that.

[Nippon]

Nippon going hard as ****

 

and he's right, saying that pot is addictive is plain stupid, it's IMPOSSIBLE to be addicted to it. yes, some people will say they are (proven 1/10 people THINK that they are addicted to it), but if they opened their eyes they'd realise they can function just fine without smoking, that they won't have the after-effects of lowering or stopping the dosage of weed, they won't be depressed (unless they're mentally unstable wich means they shouldn't smoke something that effects your brain in good or bad way, at all; they should visit mental insitution lol).

 

non-smokers tend to think people are addicted, they often ask their smoking friends/relatives "why do you smoke so much/often, but you say you're not addicted to it?" - it's simple, people smoke it becase they enjoy it, because they WANT TO, not because their body or their brain forces them to take it. yes, there are people that smoke just to fit in their society or group of friends, but that's a whole different story.

 

Pot is addictive, I never said it isn't. I'd say that the addictive potential (for me) is somewhere between watching TV and having sex. I can live without pot, I think I could live without sex and I could definitely live without TV, but I tend to consume all of them in moderation.

 

there's more definitions of addiction in my opinion..i'm dissagreeing with people saying pot is as addictive as cocaine, heroine,meth, cigarettes....people saying that pot "addicts" can't live without the herb - they're wrong and i dissagree on that part and that is exactly what i was saying in my reply :)

 

yes, we can all live without pot, without sex and without tv, but if we call all those things addictive, then hey, 99% of stuff we do is addictive in some unique way. wich is true, but i wasn't talking about that.

 

Let's see what Wikipedia tells us about addiction

 

Addiction is defined as the continued use of a mood altering substance or behaviour despite adverse consequences. This can include, but is not limited to, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, exercise abuse, and gambling. Some defining characteristics of addiction include: impaired control over subtances/behaviour, preoccupation with substance/behaviour, continued use despite consequences, and denial.

 

Now, despite the fact that cannabis causes no physical addiction, I have no doubt in my mind that cannabis can be addictive, as can my other example behaviours. By definition, TV is addictive when you watch it too much, sex is addictive when it harms other areas in your life and pot is addictive, at the very least, when your life revolves around it. I've seen real life examples of all these addictions and they are, albeit not as severe as many substance addictions tend to be, very much as real as any substance addictions.

[Rino-Addy]

Yet again, you're missing my point. I dissagreed with people thinking it's as addictive as ciggarettes, meth, heroine and such. I didn't dissagree that it isn't addictive at all; infact, it's as addictive as tv/sex/gambling (already mentioned).

 

In my opinion there are 2 sorts of addictivness; one where we can't live without substance/activity, and other one, where we can live normally without it - pot/tv/sex/gambling are those. the first ones are the ones that we basically get depressed, mad, we experience anxiety (spellcheck plz), nausiea, sickness, we're unstable etc (hard drugs and medications) if we stop the usage of them.

 

Everything we do is mostly addictive because we're partly addicted to it in some unique way. I know you're addicted in some way to pot if you stand in snow for 45 minutes waiting for your dealer (been there done that -.-) but that doesn't mean I couldn't live without it.

 

 

i also think more people should be involved in this debate, if i want to talk to nippon in person, i'd rather pm him on irc -.-

[Nippon]

Yet again, you're missing my point. I dissagreed with people thinking it's as addictive as ciggarettes, meth, heroine and such. I didn't dissagree that it isn't addictive at all; infact, it's as addictive as tv/sex/gambling (already mentioned).

 

In my opinion there are 2 sorts of addictivness; one where we can't live without substance/activity, and other one, where we can live normally without it - pot/tv/sex/gambling are those. the first ones are the ones that we basically get depressed, mad, we experience anxiety (spellcheck plz), nausiea, sickness, we're unstable etc (hard drugs and medications) if we stop the usage of them.

 

Everything we do is mostly addictive because we're partly addicted to it in some unique way. I know you're addicted in some way to pot if you stand in snow for 45 minutes waiting for your dealer (been there done that -.-) but that doesn't mean I couldn't live without it.

 

 

i also think more people should be involved in this debate, if i want to talk to nippon in person, i'd rather pm him on irc -.-

 

Let me quote

 

saying that pot is addictive is plain stupid, it's IMPOSSIBLE to be addicted to it.

 

It's not impossible for a heroin addict to quit using heroin either. In terms of addiction I'd say its a matter of degree. In south korea people have died playing starcraft while forgetting to eat and drink. Is that not addiction? You're right in that we can artificially create a division into two kinds of addiction, physical and social/mental one. But in effect, the mental/social one may have as devastating effects as the physical one. [to be continued when sober]

[Randy]

ya bro smoke blnts **** bitches etc

[NHL]

canada is proof that when a nation smokes pot, they become everyone's best friend and gain the best rep :D also we have the best actuaries, so somehow we can be stoned as **** and still be the best at math!

LOL

 

[KfcCuhz]

legal...i simply believe here is nothing wrong with it...i myself can do anything i do sober when i am high i just realize its not worth the effort...;)

[David-Styles]

legal, but then it would be over-priced and then it would be taxed when you legally buy it.

[KaZa]

**** school do meth

[heesh]

Legalise it.

 

******* ridiculous how much money and time they waste enforcing it's legal status here, even though it doesn't harm anyone..

[Kingrang3194]

because some ppl don't know how to do drugs >.>

[DrOriqinal]

If it becomes legalized. it will affect my income >_<

[Hyp]

should become legal, but then they should make any drug, weed legal.

[L0L]

ovr 300 ppl die frm weevd overdose each yr so illigalise it

[AndyIbeat]

ovr 300 ppl die frm weevd overdose each yr so illigalise it

 

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